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    I picked up one history book at a library book sale after seeing them recommended here, and was thoroughly unimpressed. Ordered a science one in the hope they would be better, but...

    My issue with Rotten Romans: I have no idea why a history of the Roman Empire should start with Hadrian's Wall. This was a very narrow, "Romans as they interact with UK" history book, and as such rather disappointing. The other ones, if they focus explicitly on UK history, might not come across so... biased.

    But there seems to be a lot about world history in the US that is viewed through an English lens, which I find, all things considered, rather ironic. So for all I know this aligns with US curriculum for social science...

    My issue with both books was the intro, and the assumption that the child is finding and has always found history/science/whatever boring. But clearly even PG 6yos don't get the condescension? Or it gets better after chapter one?

    I am mildly amused by Captain Underpants, and like British humor, so *that* is not the issue.

    My AS DS9 wasn't interested in the books last year. But he doesn't really like his areas of interest messed up with stupid "humor" (which Captain Literal misses most of the time anyway) and really dislikes most the current writing targeted toward [the caricature of what] boys [should be].

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    Interesting -- I didn't know about Horrible Histories. I just went to check out the YouTube ones, as it sounded like something DD6 might like, but what I see there looks a bit beyond her interests for the moment. She is a fan of Captain Underpants and fart humor and weird gross things, much more so than DS10 (AS) who wasn't impressed with the one Murderous Maths book I got him. I haven't tried it on her yet.

    On the other hand, she hates the Edward Gorey alphabet book where every letter is a child dying a horrible death.

    I'll have to preview the HH videos and see if anything there might interest her!

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    SiaSL - Hadrian's Wall is in England. The Horrible History series is written by Terry Deary who lives and is from England so it is definitely written from a male, baby boomer, English perspective. He wrote the series to get UK kids (though I'd say English kids and largely reluctant readers) interested in learning their history facts. It is aimed at a general audience, not at PG or 2e kids :), who often see the world very differently.

    HH series is largely based on an male, English history interpretation of the world and through a certain lens. This is only one interpretation of history. There are of course countless others.

    History is always subjected to new interpretations of the past and each generation has a chance to re-interpret it or see it differently in light of current events. In fairness to the HH series, all of history is biased and subjective; nothing is objective. Facts can be interpreted from multiple perspectives. Still, if HH series gets kids remotely interested in history, then some may consider it a success. Many people feel the same about Capt Underpants; that if it gets reluctant readers to actually pick up a book and read, then it's a success.

    We still know very little about the Olmecs, Zapotecs, and Mixtecs, for instance, and this history is only being written based on what archaeological clues have been recently uncovered (try finding a book on them when your PG kid is into them!). Their histories and the histories of the Aztecs and Incas, for example, are still too often told and remembered from the point of the Spanish conquistadors. Ditto for Native Americans and indigenous peoples. Did I mention about women?

    I've seen/heard that AS kids did not always share the same level of enthusiasm with Capt Underpants, MM, or HH series as NT kids. Perhaps they might write their own series some day??? I'd think it would be a great point of discussion at least - what they like, dislike, etc.






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