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    Originally Posted by laura0896
    OK... my situation is different as my son is MATH. But I got creative b/c he needs to get MORE reading/writing in. so....

    one of our discipline techniques has been... get ready -

    I purchased the entire 26 book series of the "Help Me Be Good" books.

    When my children show behavior that we would otherwise give consequence for... they have to pick the appropriate book, read it aloud then complete a worksheet.

    The books are a normal 2-4th reading level and about 22 pages. (Way easy for gifted readers but perfect for that developmental age in terms of social learning practices/skills) The text is on one page and cartoons on the other... but kids love flipping through them.

    They have to write out the worksheet which has questions:
    1. What happened (that I had to read the book)
    2. What did I learn from the story
    3. What can I do differently next time

    They only complete it when they have sentences that reflect good writing - complete sentences... capitalization, punctuation.

    kills 3 birds with one stone - discipline, reading, writing!

    I like this a lot!

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    I'm a former K/4 teacher, and the issue of writing is one that comes up a lot at this age. I always suggested creating a writing corner at home like this one from when my son was five:

    http://teachingmybabytoread.blog.com/2011/02/28/creating-a-writing-corner/

    You want to be sure to stock the writing corner with lots of cool supplies including stationary, stamps, and address labels. Creating a personal dictionary can also help:

    http://teachingmybabytoread.blog.com/2011/03/02/personal-dictionary/

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    hmmmm DD8 has an issue with the writing and it has become to focus of her refusal to go along with the class.

    I had no idea that 1st was such a big year for that...her 1st grade teacher was totally useless for her, so that might be part of it...and I think she has some perfectionism. AND...it doesn't help that she reads at a much higher level. I think she thinks she should be writing like what she reads and it frustrates her, but I don't actually know.

    I'd really welcome some ideas on how to figure out what part of this is the real problem so I could make suggestions to the teacher...

    She likes to draw and has indicated she would prefer writing on her own topic for classroom journaling instead of what the teacher says. In class, she seems to have a hard time getting started then it goes downhill the more the teacher pushes her. Then the work comes home where she might put up a little resistance, but it usually gets done with little pain. She usually does perfectly on the daily proof reading and editing exercises they do. She doesn't seem to mind making birthday cards for her friends or writing notes. She has produced writing plenty of times on her own, poems and a short story. It's such an issue at school that I have been afraid to make her practice more at home. I don't want her to dislike home the way she does school...

    Her problem is not ability to write, creatively or correctly. I don't think it's a motor issue either, as her craft skills are quite good. Maybe its an organizational issue or a processing one? Or is it a rebellion against writing 5 sentances in 10 minutes because they would be "simple" sentances? Like she is unable to make herself do work she considers "too easy"?


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    Originally Posted by 2giftgirls
    She likes to draw and has indicated she would prefer writing on her own topic for classroom journaling instead of what the teacher says. In class, she seems to have a hard time getting started then it goes downhill the more the teacher pushes her. Then the work comes home where she might put up a little resistance, but it usually gets done with little pain.

    In my high school Spanish class the teachers explain that for our Oral Reports, we weren't allowed to do the 'Beethoven trick.'

    She explained the some students memorized a few paragraphs about Beethoven, and then, no matter what the topic, showed of their speaking skills by relating back to what they had already memorized, no matter how off topic.

    For example, if they were to talk about Airplanes, the Student might say: "There were no Airplanes at the time of Beethoven, Beethoven was born in ......"

    So, one idea is to just talk to the teacher and find out what her objectives are for in class writing, and see if you can win permission for your DD to write on her own topics as long as she is doing X,Y, or Z.

    If that doesn't work, practice totally wild and silly ways to segue from the teachers topic to your DD's favorite topic. My son seemed to like to write about anything as long as he could throw in a few jokes about cheese.

    I'd also read the book: 6+1 writing traits because it puts learning to write in a totally different light than the 'copy edit' only approach I was taught with in elementary school. If you point out that she made an excellent word choice in her at home activities, that confidence will carry over to school. It sounds to me like your DD is worried that she won't 'do it right' for school. Is that part of it?

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    Originally Posted by 2giftgirls
    Her problem is not ability to write, creatively or correctly. I don't think it's a motor issue either, as her craft skills are quite good. Maybe its an organizational issue or a processing one? Or is it a rebellion against writing 5 sentances in 10 minutes because they would be "simple" sentances? Like she is unable to make herself do work she considers "too easy"?

    Maybe it's just being 8? Fourth grade apparently requires far more writing than 3rd did, and my DD8 has really struggled with it this year. She's physically capable of getting the writing done. When she's writing of her own volition, she writes and writes without complaint. For schoolwork, she stares blankly or goes around and around making fiddly little things perfect while totally failing to make any progress on the main task.

    The other day, she was working on writing sentences using her spelling words, and had erased everything on the page and started over so many times that I finally had a screaming tantrum and picked the words for her. ("Valuable. Write a sentence with valuable." *kid writes* "Lovable. Write.") Later that day, she said that having me pick the words was wonderful and could we do the spelling like that every week.

    Too many choices to overcome the lack of inherent interest, maybe?

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    AlexsMom-that is her EXACTLY, except this has been going on almost since the beginning of school . It spills over to math now where they ask the child to "explain" how they got an answer (don't even get me started on that)...and if I tried to tell her what to write, she will absolutely NOT write.
    SO far, the only success we have had this year was when I told her to brainstorm 5 ideas ("What makes a good friend") then I let her do the "writing" on the computer. I know she can't do all her work this way and it still took her a long time to decide what she wanted to write, but at least she was doing it and not having a fit.


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