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I think those two scores, Raven's and WISC Matrix reasoning, are fairly close. Those are probably in the standard error of measurement. I mean, if the instructions weren't in Spanish!

The neighboring school district to ours has 25% Spanish-speaking children. Many speak no English at all when the enter school. They also have a sizable Pakistani population, whose kids speak Punjabi.
Their GT director told me they use the Raven's test because it is "culturally fair" for children who may be gifted but don't speak English. I think that's why many districts use it. Not because it's such a great IQ test but because many IQ tests have a huge verbal part, and if English isn't your native language, it might be difficult for you.

This chart goes higher, but I don't know if it's "official." It does show the >95th numbers in bold, but there's no key to determine what the significance of that is.

http://www.tedaltenberg.com/cabrillo/cis132/final/scoringmatrix.php

For those who want the test in English, there are some links here: http://www.tedaltenberg.com/cabrillo/cis132/final/ravens.php

Thanks AlexsMom, those norms seem to be more up to date than the ones used in the spanish version of the test. DD9yrs scores are still well into the 99th range, DD4.5yrs came out as 83rd for a 6.5yr old (still no norm for her!) but that less than 90th for an 8 yr old! DH and drifted down about 2% each.

Interesting!

Isn't this (one of) the point of the other discussion about testing of very young children - that often there are a just a few tricky questions at the end that make a big difference to scores?