Originally Posted by Cricket2
Originally Posted by momtofour
Personally, I think that the group tests don't usually show a kid as very gifted if they're not at least mildly gifted but definitely miss some kids who are very gifted. CoGAT specifically says that they are not meant to test really gifted kids.


However, I personally know two kids who've taken the WISC IQ test more than once and had clearly average scores both times save for higher than average memory and processing speed indices and both hit the 95th percentile in one area on the CogAT scores needed for GT ids where I live. We also see around 15+% of our local kids testing as "gifted" using that 95th percentile bar on the CogAT even in our district that isn't unusually high performing and which I'd be willing to bet a lot isn't populated with an unusual number of gifted kids. We also have a lot of test prep going on for higher achieving kids, though, too and kids whose parents want the GT id. I really do think that the prep can artificially inflate scores for bright or typical kids.

For really out of the box thinkers, I'm not sure if it would be as easy to prep them into higher scores, though.

I have seen this as well. I can say if failed to show the level of gifted in my DS. He made the GT cut but the standard scores on CogAt were off from individual testing on WISC-IV. He still tested GT on CogAT just not PG on it.

I have never heard of CogAT saying it is not specifically meant for IDing GT kids. Every district I know that uses it for that exact purpose. That's crazy if the publisher is stating that and districts are using it anyway.