Hi Everyone. I have a 10 year old son who is in French Immersion. He was identified in Grade 1 (December 2008) as gifted, based on classroom observation, and a Woodcock Johnson III test. They gave him an IEP and offered enrichment once a week with the LA teacher, in addition to his classroom work. Then with a new principal came new rules and she removed his designation and wanted him retested with the Sages-2. He has also always read multiple grade levels higher than actual in french, even though my husband and i only have very very basic french. When they retested him with the SAGES-2 last year in grade 3, they told him it wasn't for marks, and had some other issues with the tester, and i think as a result he bombed it (he's a very emotional kid and very small things rattle him). Anyways when i reviewed the test with the principal and LA teacher i saw some of the ones he got wrong and was shocked (they were simple ones like what is 3/4 in % and a color mixing one both of which he has known for years and i asked him them when i came home from the meeting and he knew them). I explained to the principal the issue and she and the gifted coordinator said they had never heard of that happening and i wanted it noted in his records because they were pulling his IEP based on that. Long story short they agreed to retest him this year, in grade 4, with the SAGE (4-8)and some other comprehension tests. Here were his scores previously:
Woodcock Johnson III (Dec 2008)
Broad Reading: 133 (99th %)
Broad Math: 138 (99.5th %)
Broad Written: 143 (99.8th %)
Math Calc skills: 129 (98th %)
Written Expression: 138 (99th %)
academic skills: 140 (99.6th %)
academic fluency: 124 (94th % )
academic apps: 134 (99th % )
academic knowledge: 113 (81th %)
**obviously the only gap was in his knowledge because we didn't realize what an inquisitive kid we had-he has since become the boy that wants to know about everything and anything and reads all he can get his hands on
Sages-2: K-3 (oct 2010)
Math/Science: 20 raw,74% normal (110 quotient), 32% gifted (93 quotient)
Language arts/Soc. studies: 18 raw,55th % normal (102 quotient), 16th % gifted (85 quotient)
Reasoning: 20raw,73% normal (109 quotient),32% gifted (93 quotient)
So I guess my question is are either of these tests more accurate then the other? I don't really understand the scoring on the SAGES and I'm not sure if the first test was a fluke (although this is the kid that gets all A's in french, aces the weekly french and english spelling tests, aces or close to every single math test, and never studies anything). He always finishes ahead of classmates and is often given other tasks or assignments to fill his time. He does enrichment twice a week right now for 30 minutes but that could be pulled at any time without an official "designation". I should be getting the results of his recent testing next week hopefully.
Last edited by chmmr; 06/11/12 12:27 PM.