The main idea I get from these threads is that there is definitely a huge range of experiences for all kids (gifted, 2E, average and special needs...) depending upon many factors...the state they live in, whether they are in public or private school, the individual districts, principals and teachers, what type of support they get or don't get at home. It's a total hodge-podge!! So we all do what we can with what we've got. If it doesn't work to the child's advantage, it's nobody's fault individually, but it's the kids and the quality of our future workforce that suffers in the long run.