I just thought I would give an update. My DD5.1 is now doing great with math facts (at the level we were working on...there is room to grow). She and I just didn't know how to approach something that wasn't automatic. I still don't drill her (she would resist and be very negative about that), but do give her some practice problems every other day or so. I suppose I could do more, but this seems enough for now. Her math concept level is very high (based on testing) and so I want her to have the facts to be automatic for her so she can do more, but I am very careful not to push her because she gets very hostile if I try to impose an agenda even if I try to do it in a "fun" way.