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Rather than using the term "gifted", which many find controversial, is there benefit to using the term CHIPs when referring to Children of High Intellectual Potential?

The term chips is used in this article:
Schools Struggle With Talented Children
SWI, Swiss news in 10 languages
October 30, 2012
By Stefania Summermatter
Originally Posted by Portia
The haters are going to hate no matter what you call the kids.

Yes, but this new label will make them sound like a snack food, which will definitely deflect some of the hate.

It's hard to hate something that sounds like it is full of delicious fat and salt.
I agree with Jon. As long as we get SALSA(Student Appropriate Learning Subject Acceleration), I'm all for it... otherwise it seems like more pointless jargon.
I do like the "chips and salsa". Great title for a book on children formerly known as "gifted". wink It would be the ideal book for new teachers... everything you always wanted to know about gifted education, but were afraid to ask.

Meanwhile, possibly ADS (asynchronous development syndrome) would be a beneficial alternative phrase to the word "gifted"?
Originally Posted by suevv
This is why I think the HG/PG community needs to abandon the word "gifted" and exclusively use the word "asynchronous." Better still, give it a three-letter acronym - "asynchronous development syndrome" = ADS.

Imagine: "My child has ADS. Sure - he has some challenges, but there's a plus side, too. And it's important we all stay focused on that." Now we're talking their language!!

Add side of PASTA (pupils accelerated subject to asynchrony) with a dash of SALT (subject acceleration, learning & telescoping), and you achieve a DISH (desirable individualized study homeostasis) that I would order.

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I don't see gifted as a syndrome. I do like the food analogies though.
CHiPs was an 80s TV show about the California Highway Patrol.

I'm not sure that this acronym is the best one for gifted kids. It's as bad as Brights for the non-religious.
Aquinas - sounds like a recipe for success!
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... or a few chapter names for the new book.
They are saying above IQ 125. 125 seems quite low to me.
I'm for Poopps. Poor overburdened offspring of pushy parents.
Originally Posted by Tigerle
I'm for Poopps. Poor overburdened offspring of pushy parents.
Some may say this exemplifies a hater's view: basically that gifted kids do not exist, only hot-housed trophy kids of vanity-parenting tiger moms.

Additionally, this acronym sounds like excrement, generally considered a biohazard, a stinky substance to be avoided... in a word, negative.
Originally Posted by Portia
The haters are going to hate no matter what you call the kids.
Educators don't "hate" gifted children. They just don't think challenging them is a high priority. There is no law at the federal level and few laws at the state level making it so.
Originally Posted by Tigerle
I'm for Poopps. Poor overburdened offspring of pushy parents.

Ha! That is funny!
I've met some, when I was a child. Luckily, none of mine have encountered one of these so far.
Originally Posted by indigo
Originally Posted by Tigerle
I'm for Poopps. Poor overburdened offspring of pushy parents.
Some may say this exemplifies a hater's view: basically that gifted kids do not exist, only hot-housed trophy kids of vanity-parenting tiger moms.


Hhtkovptm...sorry, doesn't work.
Some may say that "haters" of gifted kids do exist. They may be teachers, but certainly not all teachers. The "haters" may also be relatives, other kids, and even jealous parents.

While individual motivations may vary greatly, the "haters" are those who find the "gifted" kids inconvenient and try to wish them away, possibly ignoring their obvious skills and abilities, undermining, marginalizing, ostracizing, isolating, discouraging, insulting, and/or accusing them of being elitist, privileged, overly invested in, etc.

There has been a hope that the "haters" might become more open-minded and accepting by others raising awareness, illuminating, and demonstrating understanding of the needs of gifted kids. Recent decades have seen some significant works (books, organizations, camps, advances in testing & identification, psychology & neurology, and a plethora of homeschooling supports), yet the field of education has seemed especially resistant to acknowledge that innately gifted kids exist, have unique educational needs, and a right to curriculum and pacing at their appropriate level, in the company of intellectual peers.
CHIPS and SALSA, eh? You know, this is starting to sound like a FIESTA: Fun Intellectually-appropriate Educational Services Through Action.

(I was seriously contemplating adding an erroneous H or E to the end of FIESTA to make Fun Intellectually-appropriate Educational Services That Actually Happen/Exist...but that would be going to far, I think. wink )
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CHIPS and SALSA, eh? You know, this is starting to sound like a FIESTA: Fun Intellectually-appropriate Educational Services Through Action.
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Originally Posted by Bostonian
Originally Posted by Portia
The haters are going to hate no matter what you call the kids.
Educators don't "hate" gifted children. They just don't think challenging them is a high priority.

ITA. "Hate" is a strong word to use - and not one I'd use for any of the many people I know who are teachers, regardless of their views on gifted education. 99.99% of all the teachers I've ever met and gotten to know past a superficial "hello" are teaching because they genuinely care about children.

And fwiw, like Val, the first thing I thought of when "CHIPs" was mentioned was the tv show!

polarbear
The first words that I think when I see the word chips are 'fish', 'salt', 'malt vinegar' or 'curry sauce' LOL
Originally Posted by madeinuk
The first words that I think when I see the word chips are 'fish', 'salt', 'malt vinegar' or 'curry sauce' LOL

It's interesting to see cultural differences in the interpretation of chips. Curry sauce is way out of that associative network for me, but "mayonnaise" and "wood" came to mind.
Mmmm... chips.... now I want some.

I just say "clever" without being too specific. It's accurate but sort of avoids the issue by widening the umbrella enough to allow the haters to feel included.
I prefer malt vinegar for fish and chips.

That with cheap white wine.

Yum.

Talk about guilty pleasure.

Chips and curry sauce are an old after the pub and walking home staple in the UK.

Surprisingly good, too.

Not quite as refined as a good potato shaak.but the combination of good chips cut thick from a real potato, soaked in water and then double fried in oil so hot that almost no oil is absorbed and then slathered in curry sauce can strike a percussive blow to the precise locality desired, at times. Starch, crunch, savoury spice and just the right amount of grease - can't go wrong :-)


As for the truly appalling state of fish and chips in the States - let's just say that there is a reason that I own a pretty decent deep fryer at home. Nova Scotia now - there is a place in North America where you can still find good Fish and Chips - darned fine fish up there too - fresh out of the sea.

Speaking of fish - need to run out and catch trout breakfast - yum!
Originally Posted by CCN
I just say "clever" without being too specific. It's accurate but sort of avoids the issue by widening the umbrella enough to allow the haters to feel included.
Very... clever! wink Although sometimes clever refers not only to intelligence or a quick wit (generally positive)... but rather to a cunning sense of plotting... possibly with a bit of duplicity... not quite trustworthy or transparent... being sly... for example a clever ruse, a clever ploy.

Regarding chips... poutine, anyone?
Originally Posted by indigo
Regarding chips... poutine, anyone?


Yum! Loved the gooey cheese balls!

Chips and cheese are such a great salty fatty combination. Especially late at night from a dodgy kebab van...
Curry pommes are a late night German thing too! Yum...
Originally Posted by puffin
They are saying above IQ 125. 125 seems quite low to me.

I don't think so. My IQ is 'only' 137, and I found regular schooling boring and repetitive. Plus, most definitions of mental retardation put the cut-off at 75, so for symmetry's sake I'd like a gifted cut-off of 125.
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