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    Nutmeg #68500 02/09/10 12:47 PM
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    FSIQ and GAI are figured based upon rarity of scores. In my eldest's case, her GAI was about 3 percentiles higher than her FSIQ b/c that processing speed index really lowered her FSIQ.

    A child who does as well as your dd on PRI and VCI is, apparently, in the top 3 out of 1000 as you note. A child who does as well as your dd over all four tests is less rare. I may not be making any sense...

    GAI looks at the two indices that are most correlated with intellectual giftedness. Auditory short term memory and speed (which is part physical dexterity and part mental processing speed) are a part of intelligence, but not as much associated with "G" (the factor that is raw intelligence or giftedness) as are verbal and perceptual reasoning.

    A child could have had the same four scores as your dd but mixed around btwn the indices, for instance, and still had the same FSIQ. So, say a hypothetical child got a 99.8 on PSI and a 94 on PRI (the flip-flop of your dd), he would still have a FSIQ of 138 like your dd. He, however, would likely appear very different, have more strengths in being quick, but not be as able in some of the areas that are associated with G -- like perceptual reasoning. For that reason, his GAI would be much lower than your dd's.

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    Originally Posted by Nutmeg
    Thanks, everyone! I did not get "raw" scores... not sure if I want to bug the school psychologist again :-) Do you think it really is worthwhile? Maybe I can ask for this data during the GIEP meeting. In my brief conversation with her on the phone, she had said that my dd had answered all the questions correctly on one subset... at least that is what I think she said (I was a bit distracted during the conversation... driving... I know very bad!)
    I might ask for the raw scores so you can see if, with the extended norms, she would qualify for DYS.

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    Thanks for your informative reply, Cricket! Ok, it makes sense now!

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    Hi again...

    I asked the psychologist about the extended norms, and she said she will recalculate my dd's scores using them. Thanks for letting me know about this!


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    I asked for and received raw scores but don't see how to calculate extended norms with them based on this report. What am I missing?

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    I did get the updated scores for my dd using the extended norms, and it brought up her scores a bit.

    Her PRI is now 149, FSIQ is 140, and GAI is 146.

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    Hi Dottie...

    Yes, we do have achievement scores, and they are high (98-99%), but not DYS level. She is only 6, so I think I will see how she develops over the next few years and maybe think about DYS at a later stage. Thanks for all your info and input!

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