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    Does anyone have information about speech assessments? My 8 year old DS had a speech assessment yesterday by a new speech language pathologist. She gave us scores for the OWLS (I'm assuming the OWLS-2) and I think the information was wrong. For example, she said that he had a standard score of 85 in one section and hit the ceiling, but it looks like the standard scores are not unusual for this test and that would make 85 a low score. She said he scored like a 14-21 year old, giving my husband the impression that he was working at that level, but I think they are standard age equivalence scores (which I think are misleading) and that there must be subsections so that he just scored like a child of that age on age-appropriate (3rd grade or so) material.

    Does anyone know anything about this test to help me out? I have developed a lack of confidence in this speech therapist from this (and from her saying that there is no test for pragmatics for this age group when I know that there is). She also said that insurance wouldn't pay for pragmatics testing, which makes no sense to me.

    I would appreciate any advice...

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    The OWLS-II is a respectable test for language evaluation. It has two main sections, each divided into two subsections (your DS may/may not have had all of them administered, depending on the referral question): oral language divided into listening comprehension and oral expression, and written language divided into reading comprehension and written expression.

    It does have conventional standard scores (x=100, SD=15), as well as test-age/grade equivalents (all usual AE/GE caveats apply).

    One of the nice things about this test is that every item is tagged for the aspect of language that it assesses, and many responses can be scored for different aspects of language, in four primary language areas:
    lexical/semantic
    syntactic
    supralinguistic
    pragmatic

    and also in two others for written language:
    text structure
    conventions

    You wouldn't have standard scores for the above six qualities, but a good examiner should be able to obtain fairly rich clinical information from the item analysis.

    Note the specific inclusion of pragmatics. The CELF-5 Metalinguistics test, which is specifically a comprehensive measure of pragmatics, starts at age 9. Probably what she's thinking of. The CELF-5 does have a Pragmatics Profile checklist that generates scaled scores, beginning at age 5. Easily done based on interview and/or (preferably) naturalistic observation. The venerable Social Language Development Test starts at age six.

    Is it possible the slp is reporting T scores, rather than standard scores? That would make more sense, as 85 would be +3.5 SD, and thus more likely to be consistent with hitting the ceiling on the test, and attaining an AE of 14-21 years. (14 to 21, I suspect is because some aspects of (probably oral) language plateau in early adolescence). Hospital/clinic-associated evaluators sometimes have specific ways of reporting the scores, which may not match the original form of the z score conversion. It doesn't change the meaning of the scores, but it sometimes facilitates comparisons across instruments. Typical ones are converting everything to standard scores (x=100, SD=15) or T scores (x=50, SD=10). Or sometimes using actual z scores (x=0, SD=1.00).


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    That is a huge help. Thank you very much! He is getting speech for articulation, but have to do the entire assessment (she did all four parts). I really appreciate your help.


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