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    I'm happy to see all these responses, myself, just to see that I'm not alone either!

    DS9 hates baths and showers, mostly because they interrupt whatever he wants to be doing instead, but there may be some sensory issues as well. He's had sensory issues of various sorts in the past. And I can remember being a very grubby child who *should* have been made to take a bath every night but wasn't, and thinking back, I would say that I had the same "interruption" issue along with some sensory ones. It's hard to read in the bathtub, impossible in the shower, and I have always hated to be steamy or sweaty. Giving my own children baths when they were babies was the worst part of the day, because the bathroom is steamy and I would get splashed, and I purely hated it. I think DS9's thing is mostly just not wanting to take the time out of his busy schedule to do it, though. I only make him do it twice a week unless he's specifically dirty.

    DD5 loves baths and sometimes showers, and asks for one every day, then stays in there until it's completely cold. She does tend to get out and holler about being cold as she runs through the house all wet, but it doesn't stop her from doing it next time.

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    also-regarding the sensory thing...Butter never liked the bath too warm, in fact, more like lukewarm at best and while she was ok, never liked to stay in and play or anything like that. Now we don't have to fight to get her to take a shower, but she's fairly quick at it. The way I got that to happen was pointing out she would not be able to go to sleep away camp unless she could and would bathe her self. But she also liked room temperature food and bottles, etc. I wouldn't say she's overly sensitive, but she really just likes jeans and tshirts, isn't into primping and doesn't really care what the bath products smell like either...

    The Diva LOVES the bath like Nautigal's and would spend the whole day in it, go figure...

    I also am quick in and out of the shower, don't like it too hot (again, most people call my shower downright cold, which it is not, lol) but I do love some smelly ol bath stuff...

    Dedicated products, choosing products the child likes, sponges, brushes, whatever...and the occasional foot stomp if you have to, lol!


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    I appreciate all the insights. I am inclined to think that the issue is more of an executive function issue rather than a sensory issue. She is a busy kid and hygene simply is not on her radar. Once we tell her to shower, she will stay in there for hours if we would let her. She loves Bath and Body type stuff. I suppose we just have to keep on it until she decides that it is important on her list of stuff to do.

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    Originally Posted by Beckee
    Confession: I was a PG slob in 6th grade, and now I'm a PG slob in my mid-forties who relies on 6th graders to help keep my classroom organized. But I do take daily showers and brush my teeth now, and have for many years. My kitchen, on the other hand...

    I'm basically completely disorganized, but I'm completely clean. My house and office may be disorganized to the point where I don't know where anything is, but I have an extreme dislike for being dirty, and getting dirty (in activities such as gardening and yard work), and being uncomfortable.

    So, in my case, cleanliness and organization (or executive function or whatnot) have no relationship to each other.

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    Apparently this isn't a new problem...

    "(Archimedes') passion for geometry, Plutarch adds, "made him forget his food and neglect his person, to that degree that when he was occassionally carried by absolute violence to bathe, or have his body annointed, he used to trace geometrical figures in the ashes of the fire, and diagrams in the oil on his body, being in a state of entire preoccupation, and, in the truest sense, divine possession with his love and delight in science.""

    Found in the book Coming of Age in the Milky Way by Timothy Ferris.

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    Well...we the non gifted...say "UUUUUGGGHHHHHHHH!" lol

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    When I was a kid, I read about Archimedes in the encyclopedia. He was drawing circles in the dirt--no doubt to work out the solution to some sort of problem--and told a Roman soldier not to mess up the circles, so the Roman solider killed him.

    I thought, "I can so totally see that happening to me."

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    Originally Posted by Beckee
    When I was a kid, I read about Archimedes in the encyclopedia. He was drawing circles in the dirt--no doubt to work out the solution to some sort of problem--and told a Roman soldier not to mess up the circles, so the Roman solider killed him.

    I thought, "I can so totally see that happening to me."

    Archimedes had peers.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism

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    Originally Posted by Beckee
    When I was a kid, I read about Archimedes in the encyclopedia. He was drawing circles in the dirt--no doubt to work out the solution to some sort of problem--and told a Roman soldier not to mess up the circles, so the Roman solider killed him.

    Not sure that's completely accurate:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archimedes

    Originally Posted by Wikipedia
    Archimedes died c. 212 BC during the Second Punic War, when Roman forces under General Marcus Claudius Marcellus captured the city of Syracuse after a two-year-long siege. According to the popular account given by Plutarch, Archimedes was contemplating a mathematical diagram when the city was captured. A Roman soldier commanded him to come and meet General Marcellus but he declined, saying that he had to finish working on the problem. The soldier was enraged by this, and killed Archimedes with his sword. Plutarch also gives a lesser-known account of the death of Archimedes which suggests that he may have been killed while attempting to surrender to a Roman soldier. According to this story, Archimedes was carrying mathematical instruments, and was killed because the soldier thought that they were valuable items. General Marcellus was reportedly angered by the death of Archimedes, as he considered him a valuable scientific asset and had ordered that he not be harmed.

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    Originally Posted by JonLaw
    Originally Posted by Beckee
    Confession: I was a PG slob in 6th grade, and now I'm a PG slob in my mid-forties who relies on 6th graders to help keep my classroom organized. But I do take daily showers and brush my teeth now, and have for many years. My kitchen, on the other hand...

    I'm basically completely disorganized, but I'm completely clean. My house and office may be disorganized to the point where I don't know where anything is, but I have an extreme dislike for being dirty, and getting dirty (in activities such as gardening and yard work), and being uncomfortable.

    So, in my case, cleanliness and organization (or executive function or whatnot) have no relationship to each other.

    Seconded, except that these days I'm much more organized, though I can't take credit for it. I married an OCD woman whose home looked like a museum, and we worked to find some middle ground.

    It was pretty fun when we started staying at each others' apartments and were both afraid to touch anything, though for completely different reasons.

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