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Joined: Apr 2011
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Hello,
New here. My DS just completed testing and I have a quick question about DYS qualifications. He qualifies for achievement (Broad Math), and his VCI on the Wisc-IV is 140, 146 extended norms. Does the extended norm score count?
Thanks!
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I'm just confused :), so can someone tell me if we meet DYS criteria and should apply? Also, what is his GAI?
WISC-IV
FSIQ 138, Extended Norms 141
VCI 140
VCI Extended Norms 146
Similarities 19
Vocabulary 17
Comprehension 14
(Information) 19
(Word Reasoning) 18
PRI 125
Block Design 17
Picture Concepts 10
Matrix Reasoning 15
(Picture Completion) 13
Working Memory 138
Digit Span 16
Letter-Number Sequencing 17
(Arithmetic) 19
Processing Speed 118
Coding 12
Symbol Search 14
(cancellation) 11
Woodcock-Johnson Achievement:
Broad Reading 134
Broad Written Language 142
Broad Math 190
Academic Skills 160
Academic Fluency 149
Academic Apllications 142
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It seems like it might count. I hope it counts. I just don't know if it counts.  I guess it boils down to whether the VCI extended norms score is a standard score. I imagine that someone who knows more will chime in soon, but what I'd do is submit my DYS application, and in the next week or so ready as much portfolio information as possible, in case they ask for it; or just ask Davidson up front whether you will need to submit a portfolio. ETA: It looks like you might be in luck! Check this out: Pearson WISC-IV Technical Report #7, "WISC�IV Extended Norms" From page 2: The scores derived from the extended norms should be interpreted the same way as any other standard scores derived from the WISC�IV.
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I'm not the expert on testing, or on DYS criteria. However, I'm pretty sure that extended norms are fine. Keep in mind, though, that the qualifying scores are a minimum standard, and they're going to look at the application as a whole. This is probably especially true where there are only a couple of scores that are DYS-level.
How old is your DS?
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He was tested at 7 yrs 2 mo. He loves math, chess. He was also given the WJ test of cognitive abilities for some focus issues at school. Also the SCAT. SCAT Verbal was 439 (85%) and 476 math (>99). So he consistantly does well on the math stuff. The cognitive abilities also shows 99% Spatial relations. The tester thought of him as a mathy kid who would likely enjoy engineering type of stuff.
He is grade skipped one year and accelerated in math to 4th grade. So the exposure to the math would probably make his achievement highter I'm guessing?
Broad Reading 134
Letter-Word Identification 147
Passage Comprehension 115
Reading Fluency 137
Broad Written Language 142
Spelling 148
Writing Samples 130
Writing Fluency 133
Broad Math 190
Applied Problems 161
Calculation 193
Math Fluency 170
Would you recommend a portfolio, or just scores?
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I agree on the Reading, it just isn't his passion at the moment. The tester said he got visibly excited when doing the math tests. He's gone from a reading toddler with no interest in numbers, to a math obsessed kid, then Scrabble obsessed, chess obsessed...and I think someday when he finds some books that draw him in, a reading obsessed kid Thanks for the help, I'll start working on the application.
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I have a comment-y question. It would seem that just using the scores above, and assuming they've pretty much "captured the child", the achievement scores here indicate that rockpeaguac's ds is in a very good learning environment. Is that right? Is there a way to figure out what the average achievement is for a given GAI or PRI or VCI ? Am I out on a limb here?
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Definitely apply. You can also include the SCAT scores if you want.
Just curious, what is his school situation and how did it all happen? It is just so rare that we see someone arrive here with a child who is in a good school situation right off the bat.
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The tech report is very interesting and was great to show the a relationship between achievement and iq. I'm going to have to read the whole thing once the munchkins have gone to bed. Thanks!
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Picture Concepts 10
(Picture Completion) 13
Coding 12
(cancellation) 11 Yes, definitely apply. I know know if this is a coincidence, but my son, now age 14, with 'focus issues' scored his low spots on the same subests as your did. Is the single skip plus more math working out at school? With my son's focus issues, (and personality) we found that he had rather less slack for a poor fit placement than some other kids I've met. Love and More Love, Grinity
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