Knute, we almost exactly the kind of language as you - which is a relief to know I'm not completely off track with that!

Alexsmum, You've hit the nail on your head with bored and disinterested = overwhelmed and shut down. I just didn't realize it until we had the conversation about it the other day. She definitely comprehends though.

no5no5, I love the idea of being specific about the good things and I'll give the books about jobs a go if I can pursuade her (she gets a bit obsessed about series of books and it can be difficult to break in with something else - will have to ensure I have something on hand to fill the gap when the current phase is done!). Katelyn'sMom, needing to stop her wandering away was the catalyst for our initial conversation about this topic a few months ago and it has worked for us too. I just wish she'd ask questions! Goodness knows she does for very other topic under the sun smile

Thanks again.