Originally Posted by La Texican
...I want to believe the secular humanist version that people are good, everybody's "born ok the first time".  I love that bumpersticker. And I hate to entertain the thought that if not some people can never be "ok".

Just clarifying: my understanding of secular humanism is that the idea is that people can be moral and ethical without religion/god. There's no idea that everyone is born good or okay.

I suppose that the idea that "everyone can be okay" is comforting in theory, but I think that putting it into practice can be dangerous. (Not saying you put it into practice! Just taking your idea and adding another one to it). Some people are just not okay.