Well, I assume they were from families of Indian descent. The point I was really trying to make is that bright students come from all backgrounds, and I don't think it matters a lot what their ethnic background is. I am a little offended, honestly, by Ren's comments that "they" will take spots in college from what I assume are her non-Asian, non-Indian children. Anyone from any background can push their kids to study hard and pay for college consultants if they choose to.