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Posted By: hkc75 Dyslexia - 10/10/09 07:16 PM
I was just wondering what others have found works or does not work with dyslexia and gifted. Here is what I know:

1.I just read an article that Direct Instruction is NOT recommended. http://learningpeople.typepad.com/the_learning_people/dyslexia_at_school/

2. A lot of visual spatial learners and hightly gifted kids have dyslexia (various websites) http://www.meadowbrook-education.com/visual_spatial_learners.htm

3. According to Dr. Ruf on her webinar and in her book, level 3 and higher kids who aren't reading independantly several years ahead are most likely dyslexic or have CAPD. (Plz correct me if I am misparaphrasing here).

4. Dyslexics also have sensory processing issues, r/l brain hemisphere difficulties=coordination problems in addition to spelling, reading, writing and timed tests.

I looked at Timezattack but DS7 is worried about the timed portions for math. I need to find a good LA program to help with spelling/writing. I am thinking about getting write out loud software if his school will approve.

TIA...
Posted By: MAE Re: Dyslexia - 10/10/09 09:06 PM
It sounds to me like Direct Instruction is a particular brand of curriculum rather than a method. Dyslexics do benefit from explicit, systematic instruction, particularly in phonemic awareness and phonics. The book recommendation has been made here (sorry I don't remember by who) The Mislabeled Child by Eide & Eide which addresses "stealth dyslexia" or see http://mislabeledchild.com/html/Library/DyslexiaReading/Stealth_dyslexia.htm. I would also recommended Misdiagnosis and Dual Diagnoses of Gifted Children and Adults. Also see the International Dyslexia Association for a list of Orton-Gillingham influenced and other multisensory programs which have been extensively researched and are recommended for people with dyslexia.

Hope this helps!
Posted By: hkc75 Re: Dyslexia - 10/10/09 09:21 PM
Thanks. I have read through all of the Mislabeled child stuff online and in the book. I will proceed to the Orton-Gillingham material.

Have you heard anything about the Davis Programme?
Posted By: MAE Re: Dyslexia - 10/10/09 09:38 PM
Sorry, I'm not familiar with the Davis Programme. We homeschool because my son is reading at grade level but is ahead in everything else and we are using All About Spelling, an Orton-Gillingham influenced program. We are also using Headsprout Early Reading for reading & phonics and will consider continuing with Headsprout Reading Comprehension. Both programs would be suitable for afterschooling. I think the best I've seen for home is Barton but it didn't work out for us.

We use Rightstart math but I'm considering switching to EPGY. I'm not sure if he's having trouble with math facts or not since we just started in August, but he does still count (as do I).

Posted By: hkc75 Re: Dyslexia - 10/10/09 11:47 PM
Thank you Mae. I am not sure about the OG program. I did find one specifically for visual spatials which seems very different from the other formats (lots of repetition), the Davis Program. Surprisingly math for us is clipping along but he does not memorize and hates when I try to show him "steps". We are also hsing (well doing an online school).
Posted By: MAE Re: Dyslexia - 10/11/09 03:42 PM
Repetition is integral to OG. It is unfortunately one reason DS hated Barton. AAS is working out better for us, probably because the lessons are so short. The Bob books are helping too and have pretty well matched the different programs we have tried.

You might get more feedback about the Davis Program and others by posting at Heart of Reading or HsExKids.
Posted By: hkc75 Re: Dyslexia - 10/11/09 04:15 PM
There is some more interesting stuff on youtube as well as theeinsteingene.com

http://www.theeinsteingene.co.uk/ei...1-latest-news/16-dyslexia-gifted-profile

They quote Dr. Brock Eide a lot. There is also one article on hyperlexics that is related and interesting.

Thanks again Mae. I will check these out.
Posted By: MAE Re: Dyslexia - 10/11/09 04:53 PM
Wow HKC, that is interesting. My son scored 93th centile on SB-IV, much lower than expected considering his other subtest scores and the fact that he is obviously highly verbally gifted. I was shocked that verbal wasn't his highest score. Other verbal tests he has taken since have been more in line with what I would have expected from him.

I am interested in learning more about the research on 'the dyslexic profile.' I have been so consumed with the more practical issues of teaching DS to read and now homeschooling that I have had little mental energy to pursue anything else.

I failed their screening on the page you linked to even though I learned to read early by watching Sesame Street. I still don't know my times tables for example even though I have always been gifted at math. My husband sometimes forgets I am good at math because I often count on my fingers!

Good luck finding a program that works for your son. All your research will certainly pay off for him.

-M

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