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Posted By: Katelyn'sM om Old wise tale ... Is it true? - 05/07/09 12:27 PM
There is an old wise tale about teeth that a friend told me a few years ago... Cutting teeth early is a sign of intelligence. The fact that my DD cut her first two teeth right as she turned 4 months was the reason for the conversation.

My post is two folds: How early did your HG child cut their teeth and is what we are experiencing with DD now normal?

My DD had all of her baby teeth way before she should have. I looked online at the documentation about teeth development and the 1st set of teeth are suppose to come in around 6-10 months with the premolars finishing off the baby teeth stage coming in around 23-33 months. DD had all of the baby teeth by the time she was 18 months. And her teeth came in as a pattern of two at a time for the most part.

But now she has another set of molars trying to come in (lower set)and that set is not suppose to come in until they are around 6 years old at the earliest and if I am reading it right this set of molars come in during the lose of baby teeth. A few months back we say a white pocket where the third set should be and she was chewing on straws in that area but it went away now it is back and she is chewing like crazy and the pocket is even more present.

Has anyone else experienced this with their DCs?
Posted By: ColinsMum Re: Old wise tale ... Is it true? - 05/07/09 12:32 PM
No, and it's very hard to see what the mechanism would be for a connection of this kind! Teeth are highly variable, anyway: so much so that I bet there'll be more than a few people here with HG early-teething babies, and more than a few with HG late-teething babies too. Just to complicate the matter, what is classed as "average" also varies widely from source to source. I remember an idiotic dentist attempting to guess DS's age by his teeth, which is just a silly thing to do (DS was quite average, and he guessed wrong by a factor of nearly 2!), but along the way he gave a definition of when certain teeth were supposed to appear that he'd been taught in dental school but which was nothing like what I'd read or seen in kids around me.

Btw, "old wise tale"? I've only ever heard "old wives' tale". Is yours a conscious variant, or a mis-hearing, or what?
Posted By: Mia Re: Old wise tale ... Is it true? - 05/07/09 12:44 PM
Um, it's an old wives' tale -- my ds-7-next-week didn't get his first baby tooth until he was 16 months old! He still hasn't lost any of those late-appearing baby teeth, nor are any even remotely loose. smile

There's a pretty massive range of "normal" when it comes to teething.
Posted By: st pauli girl Re: Old wise tale ... Is it true? - 05/07/09 12:48 PM
My ds5 was normal to late in the average range for getting teeth. Some of his preschool classmates are already losing their teeth, but he shows no signs of losing any soon.

Oh - re: old wise tale vs old wives tale. For years, in school and then in the workforce, i thought C-change was sea-change. I thought it was like when the waves went up and down....
Posted By: Katelyn'sM om Re: Old wise tale ... Is it true? - 05/07/09 12:48 PM
LOL ... I am so not a morning person and not awake so yes it should have been wives tale but the irony of wise does not escape me b/c I really would not put stock in the tales. I figured since it ties into my question about her forthcoming teeth I would organize it that way but really my question is has anyone else had the third set of molars come in before they turn 3 and before they start to lose their baby teeth?
Posted By: KAR120C Re: Old wise tale ... Is it true? - 05/07/09 12:52 PM
DS was perfectly average in getting baby teeth, but way WAY late on losing them. There's actually a related old wives' tale that one can't read until one has lost all of one's incisors, which certainly didn't pan out with us!

On top of just generally being late on the tooth fairy end, it turns out DS just doesn't have two of his adult incisors, so there's an excellent chance he just won't lose those two baby teeth at all. (We're hoping he keeps them until he's 18, because if they go before then he'll need a spacer to keep everything in the right place until he's fully grown and can get a permanent implant.) So if we were waiting on incisors before reading... well it could be a long time! wink
Posted By: st pauli girl Re: Old wise tale ... Is it true? - 05/07/09 01:01 PM
Originally Posted by KAR1200
There's actually a related old wives' tale that one can't read until one has lost all of one's incisors, which certainly didn't pan out with us!

On top of just generally being late on the tooth fairy end, it turns out DS just doesn't have two of his adult incisors, so there's an excellent chance he just won't lose those two baby teeth at all. *** So if we were waiting on incisors before reading... well it could be a long time! wink

LOL!
Posted By: Floridama Re: Old wise tale ... Is it true? - 05/07/09 01:33 PM
My DD6 fell with in the average range, and she is one of the few 1st graders left who have yet to meet the tooth fairy.
I have never heard the tale about early teeth and intellegence, but I did hear the tale that late teethers usually have straighter teeth.
Posted By: Ruby Re: Old wise tale ... Is it true? - 05/07/09 01:37 PM
I've heard that old wives' tale before about the teeth, but I think it's just silly. I know two kids from different family's that are both very bright (probably gifted but haven't been tested) and both got their first teeth around their first birthday. My dd7.5 got her first teeth at about 7 months, but still hasn't lost any (she's the only second grader to still have all her baby teeth!)
Posted By: Skylersmommy Re: Old wise tale ... Is it true? - 05/07/09 02:15 PM
Originally Posted by Katelyn'sM om
And her teeth came in as a pattern of two at a time for the most part.

My DD6 did this too. she started at 4 months and it was two at a time. She just got her first loosed tooth smile



Posted By: crisc Re: Old wise tale ... Is it true? - 05/07/09 02:23 PM
Another family of late teethers here as well. All three of my children didn't get teeth until around thei 1st birthday day. DS6 lost his first tooth on his 6th birthday in Dec this year. He just lost another one last week. I assume it's going to be a looong process.
Posted By: LMom Re: Old wise tale ... Is it true? - 05/07/09 02:33 PM
DS6 (DYS) is on the late end of normal. He too only lost 2 teeth and still doesn't have his 6 year old molars.

DS4 on the other has to be a genius. He was born with 2 teeth wink That said, the rest of his teeth came on the late end of normal as well.
Posted By: elh0706 Re: Old wise tale ... Is it true? - 05/07/09 03:02 PM
LOL! We have always been grateful for the fact that DS didn't get his first teeth until he was about 14 months old. He had learned to run, then walk before he had teeth, so we had fewer bloody lips from falls. He is also on the late end for losing his baby teeth. He was 8 before he lost his first tooth and at 10 still has a couple front baby teeth.

However, I'll add in another Old Wise Tale. Our dentist told us that the later kids get their teeth and the longer they keep their baby teeth,the healthier their adult teeth will be. Not sure if there is any truth to this one or not, I think it is more a matter of genetics.
Posted By: PurpleHeather Re: Old wise tale ... Is it true? - 05/07/09 03:14 PM
Early teething family here. DS had teeth at 4 mos & DH had teeth at two weeks. DD was more like 5 months & that is late in my in-laws family. My DS has cousins his same age that he "blows out of the water" intellectually speaking. (and that is according to there mutual grandmother) They all teethed early too. Definitely not related issues. smile



Posted By: Katelyn'sM om Re: Old wise tale ... Is it true? - 05/07/09 11:43 PM
Originally Posted by LMom
DS6 (DYS) is on the late end of normal. He too only lost 2 teeth and still doesn't have his 6 year old molars.

DS4 on the other has to be a genius. He was born with 2 teeth wink That said, the rest of his teeth came on the late end of normal as well.

Thank you LMom ... I love your response... and he will prove that little statement true. LOL I can see it later on ... oh our little genius ... yes we had confirmation the day he was born since he had two teeth.

Posted By: keet Re: Old wise tale ... Is it true? - 05/08/09 01:13 AM
Here's another old wives' tale, not about teeth though. A child who doesn't crawl (who just gets up and walks - I guess there are such children) will never learn to read. The longer they crawl before they walk, the better reader they will be.
Posted By: LMom Re: Old wise tale ... Is it true? - 05/08/09 01:45 AM
Originally Posted by keet
Here's another old wives' tale, not about teeth though. A child who doesn't crawl (who just gets up and walks - I guess there are such children) will never learn to read. The longer they crawl before they walk, the better reader they will be.

I love that one too wink DS6 never crawled. He started reading chapter books at the age of 3 smile DS4 did crawl and started reading earlier than DS6 though.

Crawling is supposed to increase development of the parts of brain used for reading.

I am afraid our family just doesn't fit the norms wink Not even with teeth and crawling. At least the kids like pasta and cookies. That sounds pretty normal, doesn't it?
Posted By: Lorel Re: Old wise tale ... Is it true? - 05/08/09 08:37 PM
Shall we go on to discuss head size? My friend has children with very large round craniums. DH secretly refers to them as the Charlie Brown heads. They're bright kids, but not DYS bright...

Lots of these old wives tales relate to intelligence. People have always searched for a way to justify both high and lows.
Posted By: Nautigal Re: Old wise tale ... Is it true? - 05/09/09 12:51 AM
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Oh - re: old wise tale vs old wives tale. For years, in school and then in the workforce, i thought C-change was sea-change. I thought it was like when the waves went up and down....

And you were right! What on earth is a C-change? Sea-change goes back at least to Shakespeare. smile

As for teeth, DS6 got his first two teeth at 4 months, and two more at 4.5 months, and had everything by the time he was 1. DD(almost 3) was pretty average, I think.
Posted By: st pauli girl Re: Old wise tale ... Is it true? - 05/09/09 12:35 PM
Originally Posted by Nautigal
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Oh - re: old wise tale vs old wives tale. For years, in school and then in the workforce, i thought C-change was sea-change. I thought it was like when the waves went up and down....

And you were right! What on earth is a C-change? Sea-change goes back at least to Shakespeare. smile

ugh - so someone gave me the incorrect answer when i gathered up the courage to finally ask about it at the big company i worked for, when it was the buzzword of choice for a while. (oh well, i guess my point was that sometimes a person hears something in a different way; nothing to do with teething.) smile
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