So the tester finally sent me extended norms, but didn't really say what they meant much, just that how can you really tell the difference between on 99.9 kid and another, and that DD's IQ just can't be accuratly measured by the test, but at least I have them in writing now. Never know if they will help advocate for her in the future.

But anyway here are the extended ones- what do these really mean?

VCI- 170
PRI- 165
FSIQ- 154
GAI- 183

We applied to DYS this month and I am really looking foward to having some resources. We homeschool on a small island- total population of under 4000, how likely is it for dd to ever find an intellectual peer here. She has really been struggling lately.

Wow! Those are amazing scores!

Has your daughter ever taken a class from onlineg3.com? Kids tend to "meet" other kids there. My daughter loves the classes.

I have to say I don't know how you do it. Is there any chance of getting off of the island?

Those are such high scores that your DD wouldn't be any more likely to find an intellectual peer in her neighborhood if you lived in a city versus your small island. In either case, I think you'd have to reach out to gifted-centric activities to find kids close to her intellectually. Hopefully, while I know you said she's struggling a bit now, she can find someone that she connect to on more of a heart level.

Just wanted to say, though, that you connect to her on a heart level and that you seem like you are doing a really great job for her. You should be really proud of who she is and the job you're doing as her parent.

I agree that LOG is rare, and I wish the OP the very best luck in getting her dd's needs met. Hopefully DYS will have some good suggestions. I thought population density was a problem on the island we moved from last year, connected to the mainland by a bridge and within one hour of a city. I feel for you (and her).

Those are some fabulous scores. I agree with mnmom, that you seem really tuned in to her and should be proud of the connection you're maintaining.

Thanks yall. I have never checked out onlineg3.com. I am headed to do that. I am not sure how our internet will work with it. I tried an online typing thing yesterday for DD and we tried dreambox, but our connection speed on the island is too slow.

No chance of moving for a few years, and dd is getting the chance to make some amazing memories, berry picking in the tundra, watching the bald eagles fight, fishing in the Bering Sea, the boat surrounded by roaring stellar sea lions...etc. She has one good friend, but is often lonely. I am her main playmate and confidant.

She is lucky to have you! And those experiences do sound pretty amazing!

Those are AWESOME scores! Just a crazy thought! If there is any wild life or climatology or any other cool research project happening on the island, maybe you dd could be part if the team and help out in little ways. She is sure to find intellectual peers among adult scientists.

That's a good idea or maybe she could do a scientific project of her own with a mentor if you could find one.

Congrats on getting the scores!

Just a few thoughts about resources within a community like that. Ditto on the above suggestions. Many scientists/mathematicians... enjoy conversing about their fields, even if it's via e-mail for a while. There may be scientists within a longer drive from your area, as well. It sounds as if you already have some great learning opportunities in your back yard, and looking up some of the science on-line about those adventures could be a good place to start.

If there's an issue of getting to the library (not sure if you have one nearby), many publishers offer deals on higher level reading material. Dover prints some of the classics, as well as history/math/science books at various levels (some recreational math, some all the way to graduate-level math) with completed exercises.

Also, if she enjoys math and making graphs, there is an excellent free software program with many on-line help resources called R (from a website called CRAN) that allows users to make graphs and analyze data (might be a good addition to some of those outdoor outings). Most of their (free!) add-on packages come with scientific papers, as well.

ITA, those are super high scores, intellectual peers would be very hard to find anywhere, even in a very big city.

Hi amazedmom-

My DS6 was tested a couple of months ago and has scores very, very close to your DD6. Our tester told us that it would be extremely unlikely to find an intellectual peer for him near us, and we live in a decent sized city. He has some friends, but he has also had a hard time lately. His friends don't want to play the same way he does and he takes it very personally. Thankfully, my DS6 and his younger brother are best friends and get along great. They play together all day long and I feel very lucky that at least they have each other. Based on things he has said, I know he feels like he doesn't fit in anywhere. It's so hard to see him lonely and sad sometimes, because he is very aware of those kinds of things. He has Sensory Processing Disorder, auditory sensitivity issues, and we recently found out he has vision tracking problems. His sensory and auditory issues make it really hard for him in many different environments.

It's been difficult, because his needs are so unique and I don't feel like there is anyone I can ask for advice. We are applying to DYS this month, so hopefully that will help. He did an online school this past year (his "kindergarten" year). He completed 3rd and some 4th grade courses, but it was a breeze for him and he wasn't thrilled about it. His achievement scores were near his GAI and that's confused me even more about how to teach him. Anyway, I didn't mean to go on and on and complain this much, but just know that you aren't alone in this. It's tough and exhausting to raise these kids! I'll send you a PM when I have more time. It would be great to trade ideas about what we are doing with our kids.

Heather, have you done any reading about unschooling? It might give you the confidence to start majorly messing with curricula. Our school kind of does it (on a group level), and while it's a huge amount of work for the teachers it's wonderful for the children. You can take his interests and dive in deep, teaching things like grammar and writing and math in the context of whatever you're focussing on.

At the end of the day, he's not going to end up unable to read or do math, but what you could do is teach him the joy of questioning and discovery, and how to really think about stuff. Your kids are a standard deviation above mine, and mine respond so well to this style of teaching. Of course, maybe all kids do and they just don't have the time and money to do it in schools.

I don't know about other children, but for mine third+ grade work as presented in curricula and other resources is dull. It's designed for eight and nine year olds whose brains work differently to four/five/six year olds. Now that my oldest is the right age for third grade I could see her sitting down and focussing without pictures and stuff, but until now it's been completely inappropriate.

So, yeah, that's the long way of saying I think you should take the leap and just start exploring the world together.