De-Lurking to say "Hi" and give a proper intro - 05/14/09 05:44 PM
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Re: De-Lurking to say "Hi" and give a proper intro - 05/14/09 05:52 PM
Welcome, and what a lovely post! IKWYM about feeling it's bragging, but I think it's OK here :-) Sounds as though things are going well for your daughter at her new school? No under-challenge problems? At least if any turn up, it sounds as though you have this psychologist on your side to testify that she's exceptional!
Re: De-Lurking to say "Hi" and give a proper intro - 05/15/09 03:38 AM
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Unfortunately, state law (which we will fight citing the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act ) dictates that we can�t get a copy of her exact IQ test score. The psych did say that we will receive in the mail copies of all of the scores/information on the academic and IQ tests that they can legally give us.
Should be interesting to see what they give you and if you'll need to use FERPA or not.
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Most importantly though, I was just beaming when all three people that we met with told us what a lovely person my girl is��really, she just the sweetest, most sensitive, loving child I�ve ever known. Of course, I am pretty biased!
Re: De-Lurking to say "Hi" and give a proper intro - 05/15/09 11:17 AM
Hi Dianna and welcome! I enjoyed reading your post and your daughter sounds like a lovely girl. I have two sons, DS7 and DS4.5 and I have found this forum such a great place to get support, ask other people's opinions etc.
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Re: De-Lurking to say "Hi" and give a proper intro - 05/15/09 03:31 PM
Welcome and thanks for posting!
Everyone needs a safe place to brag, and this is it!
Congrats on your good scores!
Everyone needs a safe place to brag, and this is it!
Congrats on your good scores!
Re: De-Lurking to say "Hi" and give a proper intro - 05/15/09 04:09 PM
Awww.... thank you guys SO much for the warm welcome. It really is so comforting to be able to freely post my thoughts without second-guessing myself on whether I am "bragging." I've kicked myself a couple of times since Tuesday, wondering if in my over eagerness to share the news, I may have sounded way too boastful to some friends. It's just been so hard because I'm so happy for the doors this can open for my girl.
Unfortunately, there is no organization among parents of gifted children in my parish (county). Though, the parent group of our bordering parish seems very active, so I have been able to get info from their site and hope to attend one of their meetings. I also registered and paid the fee for the state parent group on Tuesday, but have yet to even get a receipt for my payment.
The area that I live in is one of the fastest growing and highest scoring in the state. Unfortunately, my preliminary research shows that it has been criticized during state evaluations because it invests very little into the gifted program.
My daughter�s school is undergoing a major transition now, as the primary and middle schools split. This week at the first PTA meeting for the new primary school, a mom questioned the new principal about the status of the TAG program. The principal pretty much said that it is in limbo, and there is no plan yet in place for how it will operate because the current TAG teacher will have to split her time between both schools and may even just visit students in their individual classrooms. Wouldn't it be much more enriching for the gifted children to be together?
I spoke to that mom who questioned the principal after the meeting was over, and she said that she had to BATTLE the school system for three years to get services for her artistically talented daughter. To me, this is ridiculous, especially since state law states that talented and gifted children MUST receive services because they fall under special education.
Inky--- Can you direct me to any resources for researching whether we have the right to get a copy of my daughter's full IQ and academic scores? The "team" all concurred that it was ridiculous that parents aren't given the scores. I left a message with the Family Compliance Office, hoping that someone will return my call and just let me know if the school system is legally obligated to release them.
I just started researching FERPA, and I believe it states that you can't get a copy of the records for the purpose of contesting a special education evaluation. Hopefully, this doesn't apply to us because I am not contesting anything. Gosh, it just seems absurd that they don't automatically release the scores, just absurd. And, as a stay-at-home mom and former paralegal who�s married to an attorney, I will pursue any avenue to get a copy of my girl�s scores!
Oh Geez, sorry I blabbed so! Thanks again, so much for the warm welcome.
Unfortunately, there is no organization among parents of gifted children in my parish (county). Though, the parent group of our bordering parish seems very active, so I have been able to get info from their site and hope to attend one of their meetings. I also registered and paid the fee for the state parent group on Tuesday, but have yet to even get a receipt for my payment.
The area that I live in is one of the fastest growing and highest scoring in the state. Unfortunately, my preliminary research shows that it has been criticized during state evaluations because it invests very little into the gifted program.
My daughter�s school is undergoing a major transition now, as the primary and middle schools split. This week at the first PTA meeting for the new primary school, a mom questioned the new principal about the status of the TAG program. The principal pretty much said that it is in limbo, and there is no plan yet in place for how it will operate because the current TAG teacher will have to split her time between both schools and may even just visit students in their individual classrooms. Wouldn't it be much more enriching for the gifted children to be together?
I spoke to that mom who questioned the principal after the meeting was over, and she said that she had to BATTLE the school system for three years to get services for her artistically talented daughter. To me, this is ridiculous, especially since state law states that talented and gifted children MUST receive services because they fall under special education.
Inky--- Can you direct me to any resources for researching whether we have the right to get a copy of my daughter's full IQ and academic scores? The "team" all concurred that it was ridiculous that parents aren't given the scores. I left a message with the Family Compliance Office, hoping that someone will return my call and just let me know if the school system is legally obligated to release them.
I just started researching FERPA, and I believe it states that you can't get a copy of the records for the purpose of contesting a special education evaluation. Hopefully, this doesn't apply to us because I am not contesting anything. Gosh, it just seems absurd that they don't automatically release the scores, just absurd. And, as a stay-at-home mom and former paralegal who�s married to an attorney, I will pursue any avenue to get a copy of my girl�s scores!
Oh Geez, sorry I blabbed so! Thanks again, so much for the warm welcome.
Re: De-Lurking to say "Hi" and give a proper intro - 05/15/09 04:32 PM
Your post brought tears to my eyes. It is so lovely to share in others' happiness--and you can do so here!
Re: De-Lurking to say "Hi" and give a proper intro - 05/15/09 04:41 PM
You guys ROCK!!!!! I'm so glad I found my way here!!!!!!
Re: De-Lurking to say "Hi" and give a proper intro - 05/15/09 04:50 PM
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The psych did say that we will receive in the mail copies of all of the scores/information on the academic and IQ tests that they can legally give us.
I'd hang back a little and see what information they do give you, before you start launching your legal campaign.
Do you know what IQ test she was given?
I am quite confused as to why they can't give you the full info you are requesting? What logic was that law based on?
Re: De-Lurking to say "Hi" and give a proper intro - 05/15/09 05:02 PM
Originally Posted by Floridama
[quote] What logic was that law based on?
Thanks SO much for your advice. I definitely agree that I should hold of on sending the letter until we see exactly which records they will release. Though I have already prepared it
. I am having a really tough time trying to find the state law they use to justify their position of not releasing the scores. The psych and social worker both inferred that they thought that the law was ridiculous too and the psych stressed that we would be able to figure out her actual IQ score by the information we receive. I fogot which test she was given, but I'm pretty sure it was either the Stanford Binet or WISC. Of course, as soon as we left the meeting, I thought of a thousand questions I should have asked.
Re: De-Lurking to say "Hi" and give a proper intro - 05/15/09 05:15 PM
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Though I have already prepared it
You sound like me... planning obsessed
Re: De-Lurking to say "Hi" and give a proper intro - 05/15/09 05:24 PM
This link may help with FERPA:
http://www.fetaweb.com/04/ferpa.summary.htm
Here's a thread from another board that's more specific to gifted, FERPA and LA if you need it. Hopefully you won't need it.
http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?disc=226130;article=23802
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Here's a thread from another board that's more specific to gifted, FERPA and LA if you need it. Hopefully you won't need it.
http:/
Re: De-Lurking to say "Hi" and give a proper intro - 05/15/09 05:39 PM
Wow INKY thanks A TON for this link it was so, so, SO helpful. It very clearly states that "The Office for Civil Rights determined that the test protocols used by a psychologist to prepare a report are educational records and must be produced to the parents." Surely if the protocols must be produced, then the scores must be! Again, thanks so much! I will definitely be looking further into this site as soon as I get some laundry and housework done. In all of my excitement, I have spent the entire morning and half of the afternoon surfing this site!
Re: De-Lurking to say "Hi" and give a proper intro - 05/15/09 06:03 PM
Originally Posted by mom2sofia
[quote=Floridama]
Thanks SO much for your advice. I definitely agree that I should hold of on sending the letter until we see exactly which records they will release. Though I have already prepared it . I am having a really tough time trying to find the state law they use to justify their position of not releasing the scores. The psych and social worker both inferred that they thought that the law was ridiculous too and the psych stressed that we would be able to figure out her actual IQ score by the information we receive. I fogot which test she was given, but I'm pretty sure it was either the Stanford Binet or WISC. Of course, as soon as we left the meeting, I thought of a thousand questions I should have asked.
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What logic was that law based on?
Thanks SO much for your advice. I definitely agree that I should hold of on sending the letter until we see exactly which records they will release. Though I have already prepared it
. I am having a really tough time trying to find the state law they use to justify their position of not releasing the scores. The psych and social worker both inferred that they thought that the law was ridiculous too and the psych stressed that we would be able to figure out her actual IQ score by the information we receive. I fogot which test she was given, but I'm pretty sure it was either the Stanford Binet or WISC. Of course, as soon as we left the meeting, I thought of a thousand questions I should have asked.I'm curious about whether you gave permission for them to test your child.
Re: De-Lurking to say "Hi" and give a proper intro - 05/18/09 11:04 PM
M2Sofia,
If the standard deviation on any of the parts turns out to be '3'above the mean - apply to Davidson Young Scholar Program and let them figure it out! Your DD already fooled you on the multiplication, so don't underestimate her again, ok?
Welcome and thanks for sharing your story. So lovely!
Grinity
If the standard deviation on any of the parts turns out to be '3'above the mean - apply to Davidson Young Scholar Program and let them figure it out! Your DD already fooled you on the multiplication, so don't underestimate her again, ok?
Welcome and thanks for sharing your story. So lovely!
Grinity