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I think the above is the key question(s).

Tammy

My guess would be that it is due to the test being multiple choice and relying so heavily on fast processing after grade 2, when it is timed, and convergent thinking.

For example, the verbal classification section gives the kids a list of words and asks them to select from a group of choices how these words are the same. A child who comes up with some unique manner in which they are related cannot explain further why that fits since it is multiple choice. A deeper thinker may see too many possibilities.

I'm honestly not even sure on iding MG kids with the CogAT. I'm sure that there are some gifted kids (MG or otherwise) who do well on it, but I'm not sure that it is good for testing giftedness in general. Just b/c the scores on the CogAT correlate fairly well with IQ scores for children who fall within 1 SD of the mean, doesn't mean that the scores correlate well with IQ for kids who fall further from the mean.

There are, admittedly, studies of the validity of the CogAT as compared to the WISC-III and the WJ Cog. which show a reasonable correlation btwn these different tests, again for average kids. However, I don't believe that there have been any studies done of the correlation btwn scores on the CogAT and an IQ test for gifted children or for children with intellectual disabilities.

She scored a 126 on verbal and a 118 on non verbal. The child needs to score 3 point of which one point needs to be scored in verbal and one in non verbal. Here is the matrix


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Cognitive Abilities Test

(CogAT)
0 1 2 3 4 5
120-125 126-128 129-134 135-139 140+

Verbal
National Percentile

Nonverbal
National Percentile

no other scores given.

So do you think that the CG would let DD slide in? Or ask the school tester to do the WISC early?
Grinity
So when do you call the Gifted Coordinator and see if sliding is allowed? I also like the 'early WISC' alternative.
Good luck,
Grinity

what does ID MG mean?

I am new to this website- and am not generally focused on my children's performance on a single test, per se. I know ultimate success is not solely based on raw intellect, but on so many factors.
Yet, I am on my last baby.... now 3rd grade and wondering exactly what this recent test score he got means~ how it ranks~ what I could/should do to optimize his learning environment as a result?
(We live in California, very very little money left in budgets for gifted development programs; and all adjunct opportunities seem cost prohibitive on our family budget!)
He scored 143 overall (and his composite rank is 99 nationally)

Can anyone help me ?

Haha, almost forgot ..... this is on the CogAT

I am becoming one of "those" moms


The test was administered as a group. The questions were read to the kids. I am wondering if maybe she misunderstood some of the questions on the nonverbal test. Is CogAT a timed test? Also, why would it be off in the non verbal compared to her MAP scores which are very high

The test is timed starting in 3rd grade, which is the same point at which the kids read it to themselves. If it was read aloud to a group of kids, it wouldn't be timed. The potential for misinterpretation of the intent of the questions remains in either situation, of course.