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    Thanks Grinity, you are right! We had a very educational and thoughtful conversation this morning. He opened up with all his thoughts, feelings, and expectations. I learned his views and struggles with school. Homeschooling is the best option for him.

    Talking to him today was like talking to a small adult. He amazes me some times. It's not all the time, but I think he needs more opportunities to express himself in this fashion. I need to pay more attention and give him those opportunities.

    I asked if likes to play with children his age, older, or younger. His reply was, "I like to play with younger children, they respect me and they don't ignore me. Even older children some times ignore me when I talk to them."

    I received a phone call on Friday from his teacher. Unfortunately, I was in the middle of doing a video interview and couldn't pick up the phone. I called the teacher back when I was done, but I had missed her. The message she left was, "DS had a great day at school today." He had DS with her when she made the call.

    That evening I asked DS why was today so great, what happened to make it such a great day? He couldn't figure it out. He had lost recess because he didn't finish one of his centers. I wish the school would let me know what they are trying to do, before they do it. Was it a motivational tool, was it because they know I want to home school?? I have a suspicious mind.


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    To be honest, I've only ever once found a school counselor who did 'understand' and she was instrumental in getting my son his gradeskip.

    I think in this case that 'his parents' are the right person that he needs to communicate his feelings too. It is so hard to really 'take in' what it must feel like to spend 6 hours a day 'being good' while the other kids are learning to work hard, with people you don't respect, who don't see or like you. I'm not saying that he isn't able to 'put this aside' from time to time, but it never goes away until the child gets into a learning situation where they are busy learning to learn.

    My son used to bristle at the other children 'ignoring him.' I think it was a combination of them not really wanting to match him in his level of intensity of interest, and them not being able to. For weeks he complained about a little girl in daycare who 'wouldn't' talk to him. They were 3. I asked about it, and the teachers explained that she was shy and didn't talk at all except at home to her parents. I think that when keen observation is coupled with lack of experience, misunderstandings are bound to occur.

    As for you son being less mature than others his age, I beg you to consider that he has lots more to handle than others his age. If a 7 year old was suddenly asked to care for younger sibs, cook dinner, and keep the house clean,(and I know that some of you did this) it would be visible and understandable if they didn't measure up to the expected standard. Maybe dinner would be peanut butter and jelly sandwiches every night. I really think that a highly sensitive gifted child in a poor fit classroom, who feels unliked and unseen on a daily basis, and isn't learning, faces a similarly adult-sized task of keepinging their emotions 'on hold' during the school day.

    I will say that in some ways, classrooms designed for older kids are less stressful for the highly gifted child than age designed classrooms, in that people expect middle school aged children to have opinions and preferences. People also expect a certian level of crankiness due to 'puberty' - personally, I've observed that the expectations have gotten easier as the years go by. 'Blind obedience' isn't nearly as large on the teaching agenda as one gets older.

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    I am so happy for you Tall boys in feeling confidant that homeschooling is the right choice. I believe I am 90% there and most of the hesitation has to do with the child who IS in a great school placement.

    When will you start?

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    I'm glad you had a good talk, Tall Boys. I think kids know a lot of the time what is right for them. We just have to know what questions to ask and how to listen.

    Hang in there!


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    Breakaway4, I'm sending in my letter of intent to the superintendent on Monday. Friday will be his last day of school.

    As for your daughter, would she be happy if you homeschooled her after school or on weekends?? Maybe start out with her picking her favorite topic and expanding her knowledge on it. Letting her take the ball and run with it.

    I'm caught in the middle with my DS8. He wants me to home school him, but he is doing great in public school. Plus, we are so much alike it could create conflict between us. I may wait with him till next year, but home school him on weekends for this year. I feel he will be happy with this arrangement. Fingers crossed.

    Today I pick up a couple of workbooks for DS7. Just something to start with. I was shocked how much my confidence level went up by having academic materials in my hand. All the sudden I'm not as scared as I was before. I have direction!

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    Kriston, you correct!

    Some times life gets in the way. I need to slow down and listen closer, to the ones that mean the most.

    Thank you!!

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    Tall Boys - I came across two neat looking math web sites today. DS8 is doing EPGY but I actually think these sites have more a more stimulating presentation. Also the IXL site shows you the link between your states standards for each grade and the lessons they present.

    First site is www.mathisfun and the second is

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    I highly recommend asking your son what he would like to learn about and then hitting the library for books on those topics. Especially the first year, it's nice to 1) get the child involved in the planning, since that makes it much more of a team enterprise, and 2) it's free and gives you time to get your sea-legs with homeschooling.

    Until you see what he's really capable of doing, you'll probably buy the wrong things. I did! But you can cover a lot of ground for free with library books, and it lets you see what he can do.


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    Originally Posted by Catalana
    "Most gifted kids are highly compassionate and patient with others,
    Opps Cat - over the line here! Or do you have references for above?"
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    Hi Grinity,


    As for references re: the above, I was thinking about this at the time: http://www.sengifted.org/articles_s...tInGiftedChildrenMoralSensitivity.shtml. I didn't realize it was considered a myth, so I will definitely look at the Ruf article,

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    Starting from an early age, many gifted children show evidence of moral sensitivity. These children tend to care about others, want to relieve pain and suffering or show advanced ability to think about such abstract ideas as justice and fairness. The beginnings of moral sensitivity are found in the development of empathy between child and care-taking parent.
    Deirdre V. Lovecky is a licensed psychologist with a practice in Rhode Island.

    Thanks for the article. Weirdly, my son in particular has a super developed sense of justice that gets him acting impatient and stubborn instead of acting emphatic. In elementary school, he'd get on his high horse, decide something was dangerous, (like allowing small children to play 'snake' with the computer's electric cord,) make a big fuss out of concern for safety, start yelling, and end up in the principal's office.

    I called 'foul' because there is a world of difference between 'many' and 'most.' I love reading Lovecky's work, and she could be talking about so many people I know, but that still doesn't make a 'most.' I think that this is a subset of 'gifted doesn't mean gifted across the board' Emotional Intelligence is like Math in that way - some gifted kids are great in Math, and some other aren't. Same with Spelling blush

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    (which may not be all that helpful on this forum anyway, since my experience tends to be with family and friends who are probably in the HG area, but likely not hitting IQ's of 160 or not PG, which is no doubt an entirely different thing).
    LOL! ((eyeroll))HG is plenty intelligent for this pond! I think your experience is going to continue to be valuable here dear, I, personally identify as 'Low HG overall, with a PG spike in 'reading between the lines.' I will call foul when I see one, though, and I wish you had been there when I joined the Davidson lists 5 years ago. I was used to speaking very imprecisely, because everyone else in my real life would always 'smile and nod' when I spoke anyway. It took me a few 'fouls' to get the hang of the idea that people were actually reading 'exactly' what I was saying. I wouldn't have embarrassed you publically, except for all the Parents of gifted kids who just aren't like that. Just like if you had said: 'Most profoundly gifted kids learn to read before age 3.' KWIM?

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    I too keep thinking about homeschooling, and if you had asked me 3 months ago what I thought of homeschoolers, I would have had some very very serious concerns.
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    This open mindedness is exactly what I love and value about this community, and I hope you keep posting your experiences and what you are reading and what you are speculating - just signpost for us, OK? To me, when I'm walking around with egg on my face - that means I'm really living!

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    Originally Posted by Grinity
    Weirdly, my son in particular has a super developed sense of justice that gets him acting impatient and stubborn instead of acting emphatic. In elementary school, he'd get on his high horse, decide something was dangerous, (like allowing small children to play 'snake' with the computer's electric cord,) make a big fuss out of concern for safety, start yelling, and end up in the principal's office.


    My son is the exact same way.


    Breakaway4, Thanks you for the links! My sons are going to have a blast with them.

    Kriston, my son wants to learn more about Saturn and Jupiter. I told him, we will go to library and get more books on the planets. He said, "Wait mom! I want to reread the books I have before we get more advanced books." He was very excited about more books, but he want to make sure he refreshed his memory before getting new books. FUNNY!


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    Originally Posted by Tall boys
    Originally Posted by Grinity
    Weirdly, my son in particular has a super developed sense of justice that gets him acting impatient and stubborn instead of acting emphatic. In elementary school, he'd get on his high horse, decide something was dangerous, (like allowing small children to play 'snake' with the computer's electric cord,) make a big fuss out of concern for safety, start yelling, and end up in the principal's office.


    My son is the exact same way.
    Love the library book quote!
    Does anyone else see the irony in teachers complaining to me that my son is yelling and acting bossy in a situation where they are allowing 5 year olds to 'play snake' with the electric cord of the computer?

    File this one under: 'Don't know wether to laught or cry!
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