Gifted Bulletin Board

Welcome to the Gifted Issues Discussion Forum.

We invite you to share your experiences and to post information about advocacy, research and other gifted education issues on this free public discussion forum.
CLICK HERE to Log In. Click here for the Board Rules.

Links


Learn about Davidson Academy Online - for profoundly gifted students living anywhere in the U.S. & Canada.

The Davidson Institute is a national nonprofit dedicated to supporting profoundly gifted students through the following programs:

  • Fellows Scholarship
  • Young Scholars
  • Davidson Academy
  • THINK Summer Institute

  • Subscribe to the Davidson Institute's eNews-Update Newsletter >

    Free Gifted Resources & Guides >

    Who's Online Now
    0 members (), 231 guests, and 15 robots.
    Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
    Newest Members
    Emerson Wong, Markas, HarryKevin91, Gingtto, SusanRoth
    11,429 Registered Users
    May
    S M T W T F S
    1 2 3 4
    5 6 7 8 9 10 11
    12 13 14 15 16 17 18
    19 20 21 22 23 24 25
    26 27 28 29 30 31
    Previous Thread
    Next Thread
    Print Thread
    #37213 02/04/09 07:09 PM
    Joined: Aug 2008
    Posts: 36
    lily Offline OP
    Junior Member
    OP Offline
    Junior Member
    Joined: Aug 2008
    Posts: 36
    DD8 HATES to write and avoids if at all possible. I can't tell if the problem is that she can't keep up with her thoughts OR if something else is going on. She doesn't have a problem with drawing and will write neatly for a spelling test, but the teacher says her writing is really laborious. Most of the time it is very sloppy. I know part of that problem is that she is unhappy with school, but how can I tell if there is something more to this?

    lily #37222 02/04/09 07:55 PM
    Joined: Jan 2008
    Posts: 215
    K
    Member
    Offline
    Member
    K
    Joined: Jan 2008
    Posts: 215
    Can your dd answer questions, tell a story, etc. verbally? Can she type? How was her writing last year?


    keet #37223 02/04/09 08:22 PM
    Joined: Aug 2008
    Posts: 36
    lily Offline OP
    Junior Member
    OP Offline
    Junior Member
    Joined: Aug 2008
    Posts: 36
    She can tell a story in great detail and is very verbal. She is very comfortable with standing in front of a class and doing presentations.

    She does not know how to type yet - I need to work on that. Last year, her writing was very slow, too. But she was slow about doing all of her work. I couldn't figure out why until she finally told me she was upset that she wasn't learning anything.

    Joined: Aug 2008
    Posts: 36
    lily Offline OP
    Junior Member
    OP Offline
    Junior Member
    Joined: Aug 2008
    Posts: 36
    I don't know much about dysgraphia, so I don't know what to look for. In thinking about this today, I think it has gotten messier this year. I don't care as much about how it looks but that it seems to be a difficult task for her. I'm considering trying to skip her to 4th next year but I'm worried about how much more writing will be required.

    How do you test someone for dysgraphia?

    Joined: Aug 2008
    Posts: 36
    lily Offline OP
    Junior Member
    OP Offline
    Junior Member
    Joined: Aug 2008
    Posts: 36
    I had never heard of dysgraphia until a couple of days ago, so I'm really behind the 8 ball on this one. But in reading about it last night, it does sound a lot like her, especially the part that says they can write really well for a short while such as during spelling tests, but it is hard for them to do for very long. I will definitely have the psychologist address this next Month. I do hope that this does not shut the door on a grade skip for us - it's probably impossible if she can't pass the CBE tests this summer which will require some writing.

    If dysgraphia is her problem, then I'm really mad at the first grade teacher who made her miss a lot of recess when she didn't want to write her spelling words in "rainbow colors" (words that were ridiculously simple - a pointless exercise for her). I didn't find out about recess until later, either - I seem to be getting caught off guard on a lot. I feel really terrible about that.

    Is dysgraphia more of a brain issue or a muscular issue? I wonder if having such a delayed bone age would also impact the muscular development? Her bone age is 4.5 - almost 5 SD low for her chronological age. Maybe this is just a separate problem. We will not get any test results for her growth problems until later this month. People think she is a 6yo when the see her. This ride is getting wilder all the time...

    Master of none, I would love to hear more about your experiences.

    lily #37314 02/06/09 07:59 AM
    Joined: Sep 2008
    Posts: 354
    Member
    Offline
    Member
    Joined: Sep 2008
    Posts: 354
    Has she had any visual/perceptual testing?

    My dd has been to specialist after specialist, test after test and a laundry list of potential diagnoses over the last three years.

    We finally found a Neurodevelopmental Optometrist (2nd opinion) that pinpointed DDs visual issues that impacted her writing-reversals,messy, poor copying speed, etc etc.

    She is now in vision therapy a month and I can see improvements!

    www.covd.org - to find a qualified DO in your area.

    This may not be what you need, but just a thought.

    lily #37346 02/06/09 12:52 PM
    Joined: Dec 2005
    Posts: 7,207
    Member
    Offline
    Member
    Joined: Dec 2005
    Posts: 7,207
    Originally Posted by lily
    Is dysgraphia more of a brain issue or a muscular issue? I wonder if having such a delayed bone age would also impact the muscular development? Her bone age is 4.5 - almost 5 SD low for her chronological age. Maybe this is just a separate problem. We will not get any test results for her growth problems until later this month. People think she is a 6yo when the see her. This ride is getting wilder all the time...

    My understanding is that writing troubles can be both 'brain' and 'body' - how is her posture? I know that writing will be affected by poor 'core muscles' or low finger/arm dexterity. Have you had a Physical Therapist evaluation to see if her bone age is affecting her physical development.

    BTW - don't blame yourself for not being 'on the ball' there is no ball! Our kids didn't come with instuction books and the 'professionals' are often 180degrees in the wrong direction. You are working hard NOW, and that's all that matters. I was totally in the dark until DS was in 2nd grade!

    Grinity


    Coaching available, at SchoolSuccessSolutions.com
    Joined: Aug 2008
    Posts: 36
    lily Offline OP
    Junior Member
    OP Offline
    Junior Member
    Joined: Aug 2008
    Posts: 36
    Everyone, thanks so much for all of your replies. I will do some more research on these ideas. I don't know what we would do without the Internet!

    I have not gotten much information about the bone age yet as we just got that news 3 weeks ago. The Endocrinologist is doing many tests. I've sensed that she hasn't been growing right for a while. I had to push for this to be done but wasn't expecting it to be so delayed. I wish I had done it a year ago, but that's all in hindsight! I am feeling overwhelmed with trying to investigate so many issues at once. At least DD5 is in a happy place for now. And she's my challenging child! smile

    Joined: May 2007
    Posts: 982
    L
    Member
    Offline
    Member
    L
    Joined: May 2007
    Posts: 982
    Originally Posted by Grinity
    [quote=lily]
    BTW - don't blame yourself for not being 'on the ball' there is no ball! Our kids didn't come with instuction books and the 'professionals' are often 180degrees in the wrong direction. You are working hard NOW, and that's all that matters. I was totally in the dark until DS was in 2nd grade!

    [quote]

    I have had a problem with guilt because I thought I should know more about my son's difficulties than I did. My son told me that he knew I was not "Momniscient" as in "all knowing mom." He realizes that even doctors miss things they should have noticed. Professionals don't even know it all. I got a good laugh out of this one: http://studentsgrow.blogspot.com/2008/06/visual-motor-integration.html





    Moderated by  M-Moderator 

    Link Copied to Clipboard
    Recent Posts
    Beyond IQ: The consequences of ignoring talent
    by Eagle Mum - 05/03/24 07:21 PM
    Technology may replace 40% of jobs in 15 years
    by brilliantcp - 05/02/24 05:17 PM
    NAGC Tip Sheets
    by indigo - 04/29/24 08:36 AM
    Employers less likely to hire from IVYs
    by Wren - 04/29/24 03:43 AM
    Testing with accommodations
    by blackcat - 04/17/24 08:15 AM
    Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5