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    #229278 04/08/16 06:07 PM
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    My child needs an IQ test for the gifted school we're considering for next year. The school suggested that he could take the WISC as a five year old, but my understanding is that it isn't allowed.

    Is it possible to take the WISC as an almost six year old, clearly gifted child? What do we need to consider in making this decision?

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    No, as the WISC is only normed based on age, it should not be administered to those outside of its age range (6:0 to 16:11). Wechsler has another measure, the WPPSI, for the under-6 set. Testing a child at 5:9ish on a WISC would result in invalid scores.
    Although the Dutch version of the WISC has separate norms, I wouldn't think that the age range would be any different as the WPPSI is also available in Dutch with separate norms.

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    It is, of course, always possible to take an IQ test at an out-of-standardization age, but you won't be able to obtain genuine standard scores. Since this is for access purposes, this seems counterproductive, as you would both have invalid scores, and also lock yourself out of obtaining valid scores for another two years (on the only instrument the school accepts). If he misses the cutoff by just a few points, there will be no way of knowing if that was largely due to the difference in age of 3 months, as we're not comparing apples to apples.

    I also think you may be placing your child at a disadvantage by having him test in his secondary language. Especially as, at this age, most vocabulary is obtained from environmental sources, for which he may or may not have the same richness currently as the norm group did. Just because he can read does not necessarily mean he has equal access to vocabulary. Of course, I assume this will be the language of instruction, so it may make some sense to see his level of function in that language (but you'll have to take the score with qualifications). And, naturally, all family factors need to be weighed in the decision.


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    Thanks, aeh, for the reply. Your thoughts on testing are always welcome. This was my thinking as well, so I found it strange that the school recommended this course of action.

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    They wouldn't accept the WPPSI for his age bracket?

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    Good point, George. The WPPSI-III NL is in print. The second language disadvantage would still exist, of course.


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    Thanks, both. I'll check on that possibility as well.


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