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    My daughter has a math problem asking her to list all the whole numbers from 0 to 1000 whose digits equal 4.

    I don't know how to do this problem, and unfortunately, I'm not seeing explicit instructions on how to approach this problem.

    Can anyone suggest how to approach solving this problem? (Resources also appreciated.)
    Thank you!

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    Is the problem asking for the numbers whose digits *add* up to 4? Or something else?

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    By "digits equal 4," do you mean that the digits sum to four?

    What you want in that case is to first figure out all possible combinations of digits between 0 and 4 that add up to four: 0004, 0013, 0022, etc. Then for each set, you want the number of ways to order the digits. Add it all up and you have the answer.

    Fun problem!

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    Thank you so much, Elizabeth! (The way you stated the problem was what I was trying to communicate.)

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    Oops, had to stop and try it out. Now I got an answer, and it makes me think I missed a slicker solution.

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    Originally Posted by Zen Scanner
    Oops, had to stop and try it out. Now I got an answer, and it makes me think I missed a slicker solution.

    Find the coefficient of x^4 in the MacLaurin series of 1/(1-x)^3.

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    Originally Posted by 22B
    Originally Posted by Zen Scanner
    Oops, had to stop and try it out. Now I got an answer, and it makes me think I missed a slicker solution.

    Find the coefficient of x^4 in the MacLaurin series of 1/(1-x)^3.

    Why? What's the connection?

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    Originally Posted by Mom2277
    My daughter has a math problem asking her to list all the whole numbers from 0 to 1000 whose digits equal 4.

    I don't know how to do this problem, and unfortunately, I'm not seeing explicit instructions on how to approach this problem.

    Can anyone suggest how to approach solving this problem? (Resources also appreciated.)
    Thank you!

    An equivalent problem is to find the number of ways to put 4 identical balls in 4 different containers. You can probably find this in any book on intro combinatorics. Then the answer is 7 choose 4, which is 35.

    Here is an example:
    http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/56226.html

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    AFAIK, it is 'number of ways to place 4 identical balls into 3 containers' = 'throw 2 sticks between 4 balls, on the outside allowed' = C(6,2) = (6*5)/(2*1) = 15.

    (3 containers, and not 4, because the number < 1000 and so has <= 3 digits.)

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    number of ways to put 4 identical balls in 4 different containers. You can probably find this in any book on intro combinatorics. Then the answer is 7 choose 4, which is 35.
    Here is an example:
    http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/56226.html


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    Originally Posted by iynait
    Originally Posted by 22B
    Originally Posted by Zen Scanner
    Oops, had to stop and try it out. Now I got an answer, and it makes me think I missed a slicker solution.

    Find the coefficient of x^4 in the MacLaurin series of 1/(1-x)^3.

    Why? What's the connection?
    I'm going to guess that this is a mathematician joke; it works (you can see this if you look at the mathforum link someone gave above, plus the definition of a Maclaurin series), but the deep reason why is that 1 - 0 = 1. If 22B can tell us differently, though, e.g. give an interpretation for x that makes an interesting generalisation, I'm all ears!

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