Gifted Bulletin Board

Welcome to the Gifted Issues Discussion Forum.

We invite you to share your experiences and to post information about advocacy, research and other gifted education issues on this free public discussion forum.
CLICK HERE to Log In. Click here for the Board Rules.

Links


Learn about Davidson Academy Online - for profoundly gifted students living anywhere in the U.S. & Canada.

The Davidson Institute is a national nonprofit dedicated to supporting profoundly gifted students through the following programs:

  • Fellows Scholarship
  • Young Scholars
  • Davidson Academy
  • THINK Summer Institute

  • Subscribe to the Davidson Institute's eNews-Update Newsletter >

    Free Gifted Resources & Guides >

    Who's Online Now
    0 members (), 278 guests, and 9 robots.
    Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
    Newest Members
    ddregpharmask, Emerson Wong, Markas, HarryKevin91, Harry Kevin
    11,431 Registered Users
    May
    S M T W T F S
    1 2 3 4
    5 6 7 8 9 10 11
    12 13 14 15 16 17 18
    19 20 21 22 23 24 25
    26 27 28 29 30 31
    Previous Thread
    Next Thread
    Print Thread
    Joined: Mar 2012
    Posts: 9
    C
    Junior Member
    OP Offline
    Junior Member
    C
    Joined: Mar 2012
    Posts: 9
    DS7 took MAPs in Spring 2012, end of first grade. He received a score of 229. There is a once a month g&t program, for 40 minutes and differentiation in class. He receives the extension sheet for third grade math ( he is in 2nd) and 4 the grade word problems. Instruction only happens when he has a question.

    so the question is...

    do I test him for CTY and pay out of pocket for math at his level, pushing him even further ahead of his grade? The school is not willing to subject accelerate, differentiation is their mantra and they are sticking with it. I have no problem pushing him ahead, I just don't know what future problems I will be creating?

    thanks,
    Callie


    callie
    Joined: Jun 2011
    Posts: 146
    P
    Member
    Offline
    Member
    P
    Joined: Jun 2011
    Posts: 146
    Welcome, Callie, I don't know anything abou the MAP so I can't address that. I would think about going deeper and wider rather than accelerating. For example, he could dabble a bit in geometry or looking at how to find the square root of numbers (mine loved this when we did it), or even working in Roman numberals instead of integers. Like, what is IV + II, without converting it to what is 4 + 2. We did that for a while as well.

    Sorry I don't have much more to offer. I"m sure someone else will have words of wisdom for you.


    What I am is good enough, if I would only be it openly. ~Carl Rogers
    Joined: Jan 2008
    Posts: 1,917
    Member
    Offline
    Member
    Joined: Jan 2008
    Posts: 1,917
    One question you will want to ask before doing anything re: math is whether your DS's scores continue to go up. Are they doing fall MAP testing? If he is progressing in math and the scores stay high, he is probably learning new things, right? And if he is not progressing, you can bring that up with the school. He deserves to be taught new things so that he can progress.

    Another thing to think about is whether there are other kids at his MAP levels, and if so, I would ask if he be placed with them. If these kids are pretty much all in higher grades, I suggest you keep pushing for placement with them, despite the school's mantra. Play Columbo and tell them how confused you are about why your kiddo cannot be placed with kids learning at his level.

    In the meantime, if your kiddo is complaining and unhappy, I would seek out other outlets. There are more online options besides CTY. There is a pretty good description of them here (though it's a little dated): http://www.davidsongifted.org/db/Articles_id_10642.aspx
    Some schools have allowed kids to work at their own pace on these online math options during regular math class, but you probably will have to do a lot of advocacy to get that.

    You can look at the MAP scores here, appendix B, to see that the 229 falls in the 97th/98th percentile for 3rd graders in spring:
    http://www.nwea.org/sites/www.nwea.org/files/resources/NWEA_2011_RIT_Scale_Norms.pdf

    Joined: Feb 2011
    Posts: 833
    F
    Member
    Offline
    Member
    F
    Joined: Feb 2011
    Posts: 833
    my ds6 (first grade) scored 223 in math for fall this year. One thing we did was look at the breakdown of that score. He scored extremely high in number sense and computation (250's) and relatively lower in geometry and measurement (low 200's). What we decided to do was to focus on his shortcomings and bring this numbers higher. (His spring score was "only" a 206).

    Our school is also against acceleration of any kind. They really believe they will be able to continue to differentiate for him.


    Moderated by  M-Moderator 

    Link Copied to Clipboard
    Recent Posts
    For those interested in science...
    by indigo - 05/11/24 05:00 PM
    2e & long MAP testing
    by millersb02 - 05/10/24 07:34 AM
    Beyond IQ: The consequences of ignoring talent
    by Eagle Mum - 05/03/24 07:21 PM
    Technology may replace 40% of jobs in 15 years
    by brilliantcp - 05/02/24 05:17 PM
    NAGC Tip Sheets
    by indigo - 04/29/24 08:36 AM
    Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5