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    How much TV do you let your kids watch each day?


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    It varies.


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    I'll be honest ... I am 100% positive that my kids wouldn't know half the stuff they know if it wasn't for educational tv shows. So I have no problem with them. (thank you Leapfrog videos, Word World, Super Why, Team Umizoomi, Mickey Mouse Clubhouse, Dora & Diego, Handy Manny and all those I forgot to mention for broadening my children's knowledge base! lol)

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    It varies for us as well. Some days they watch no t.v., some days just a 30 min show, and some days a movie (usually on the weekend). But everything they watch is educational or age appropriate and no commercials.

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    DS floored his Music Together teacher with all the musical terms and knowledge about composers he could spout off at age two thanks to Little
    Einsteins. When he was asked to share a word that started started with B,
    He replied Blue Footed Baby Booby Bird and that's aliteration! I am convinced he learned to read from Super Why before he was 2.

    At almost 4 he watches about 1.5 hours a day and like MK13's kids he has learned many educational things from tv. The rest of his day is very active
    And he will also do imaginative play along with his shows.

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    We don't have a TV, so that was easy.

    Once homework, practicing his music and chores are completed, my son's time is his own, however, on his computer or Xbox.

    Why the survey?

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    Hmmm... and what AGES of kids?

    This number has varied quite widely over the years. DD, now 13, generally watches only a handful of hours weekly at this point, but as others have observed, this doesn't account for much of her screen time overall, as she'd much rather spend time on the computer than passively watching TV.



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    I know that my kids watch way too much TV.

    As long as they aren't playing computer or video games. That's what killed me. TV, not so much.

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    Originally Posted by UConn
    TV viewing does not begin at an earlier age. However, gifted preschool children have been found to watch significantly more hours of television per week than nongifted children (Abelman & Rogers, 1987). Because of their ability to coordinate and comprehend television information, most of their viewing is active—that is, gifted children are less likely to sit in front of the television set mesmerized and confused by programming and are more likely to be involved in program content and story line.

    Short version.
    http://www.gifted.uconn.edu/nrcgt/abelman.html

    Long version.
    http://www.gifted.uconn.edu/nrcgt/reports/rbdm9206/rbdm9206.pdf

    YMMV


    In my house we use tv in many different ways.  For entertainment or to relax under, and for education and for background noise.   Plus we go to the cinema, and we have a DVD player in our car.  Yes, even the almost 2 year old sat through the entire Lorax five times at the dollar cinema, watching the movie.  "How ba-a-a-d can I be?  I'm just doing what  comes naturally"... 
    Last summer, season of the Superhero movies at the Cinema, I was able to watch a few of them.  My daughter didn't let me watch the rest of them. When it became a bother I skipped the movie and walked the mall but my son saw every super hero movie that summer in the Cinema with Grandpa.  He's almost 5 now.   He loves the movie theater.  We love the tv.  We love the Internet.  My son learned how to read online.  I just bought an iCan Play piano video game so he can learn how to play piano on tv.  (dec. be here soon).  

    the research linked above did not affect my tv viewing habits.  I posted it because why else would you ask, even though choices a, b, & c show me you don't love tv



      


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    and I have to add .... tv characters are so much more entertaining than most teachers in my kids' lives ever will be ... so no wonder they learn from the shows so much!

    also, I speak to the boys probably 80% of the time in Czech ... they learn their English from TV ... and DS4's vocab is unbelievable to some of our friends. (at 2.5 he'd rather say something was "difficult" than "hard", etc.)

    I do agree that there might be some relation between gifted kids learning from TV as opposed to other kids who just zone out and don't get that much out of the shows ... seeing my kids sitting next to our friends' kids there is a huge difference in what the get from the shows. DS4 will tell you all he's learned from the show, our friend's daughter just remembers she saw something and if you really insist on getting an answer, she might remember the name of the show.

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    Originally Posted by Mk13
    I speak to the boys probably 80% of the time in Czech ... they learn their English from TV ... and DS4's vocab is unbelievable to some of our friends. (at 2.5 he'd rather say something was "difficult" than "hard", etc.)

    I was a house party once, hosted by an American Czech who married a Czech Czech. The had Czech children, so every year they would go back to Czech to pick up their child check from Czech for having Czech children (who were distinctly American and lived in America).

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    Originally Posted by JonLaw
    Originally Posted by Mk13
    I speak to the boys probably 80% of the time in Czech ... they learn their English from TV ... and DS4's vocab is unbelievable to some of our friends. (at 2.5 he'd rather say something was "difficult" than "hard", etc.)

    I was a house party once, hosted by an American Czech who married a Czech Czech. The had Czech children, so every year they would go back to Czech to pick up their child check from Czech for having Czech children (who were distinctly American and lived in America).


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    Originally Posted by Mk13
    I do agree that there might be some relation between gifted kids learning from TV as opposed to other kids who just zoom out and don't get that much out of the shows

    My kids don't zone out either.

    Instead it's questions, comments, questions, comments, questions, comments (siiigh) ...mostly about how the show was made, how much of the content is real, how much is fiction. Could that happen in real life? Was that done with a computer? etc etc etc etc. DH and I tape shows and watch them after the kids go to bed so we can watch in peace and quiet.

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    I voted none. We do not have a cable hookup or digital receiver, and our only TV is in the basement. But, we will occasionally watch a short nature show on Netflix or youtube. And, every couple of weeks we will watch a family movie.

    My DD does like to watch TV. I remember when she was younger she would watch CNN in the doctor's office. She still remembers the Chilean miners which happened to be going on during a series of visits. We recently saw the apparatus used in the rescue at a museum and she recognized it. I think she was two at the time of the crisis.

    She also sat through a movie in the movie theater at 20 months old completely enthralled.

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    DD watches almost none. There really isn't any time for it in her/our lives, I guess. She sometimes has a few hours of computer use a week, like 3 max.

    DS used to watch some last year because I needed a few more hours of "child care" than I had. Maybe 4 hours a week? Sometimes it was computer instead of TV. Right now, he's in school more and isn't watching any.

    We hardly ever watch any on weekends unless the weather is really bad.

    I anticipate media use going up quite a bit as they get older. I'd be okay with DD watching more, but it doesn't really seem to come up. She doesn't care.

    They never watch commercial TV. Only exceptions are occasional sports events--very occasional. They found all the ads during the Olympics quite bizarre.

    We don't get "good" cable.

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    ... and see, we can only get "good TV" by having "good cable."

    BBC, I mean. LOL.

    DD currently watches three shows regularly-- two with her Dad, and one with me: a) The Walking Dead, b) What Would You Do, and c) Doctor Who. Oh, and she does love The Simpsons. And South Park.

    When she was 3-5yo, her favorite shows were Emeril, Martha Stewart, and CSI.
    Then she went through a phase where she loved Numb3rs, and Monty Python (thank you Netflix!) and I'd let her stay up late to watch it.

    She's also fond of Star Trek (original and NG), and The Twilight Zone, as well as some syndicated stuff like Perry Mason (which her cell phone plays as a ring tone, much to the bewilderment of most of HER peer group, but to the obvious delight of anyone over forty...)

    I guess, other than during periods of illness, she's never really watched much TV.





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    My kids (8 and 4) are allowed to watch PBS Kids on Saturday and Sunday mornings so that their dad and I can get some sleep. I chose Saturday mornings only as the closest poll choice.

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    Originally Posted by JonLaw
    Originally Posted by Mk13
    I speak to the boys probably 80% of the time in Czech ... they learn their English from TV ... and DS4's vocab is unbelievable to some of our friends. (at 2.5 he'd rather say something was "difficult" than "hard", etc.)

    I was a house party once, hosted by an American Czech who married a Czech Czech. The had Czech children, so every year they would go back to Czech to pick up their child check from Czech for having Czech children (who were distinctly American and lived in America).

    I guess no one over there czeched up on them.

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    Originally Posted by Val
    Originally Posted by JonLaw
    I was a house party once, hosted by an American Czech who married a Czech Czech. The had Czech children, so every year they would go back to Czech to pick up their child check from Czech for having Czech children (who were distinctly American and lived in America).
    I guess no one over there czeched up on them.
    I'd wager that, upon putting one of those moppets in the right cultural setting, the inner Slav will yet be revealed by a certain transformation, i.e. the Czech'll unhide.


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    I just wanted to get an idea of how other parents felt about their kids TV habits. I often feel like my kids would be more excited about educational things like flash cards or puzzles if there was no TV. Or more specifically, no crappy cartoons like Ben10 or Super Hero Squad (I would never tell them that though. I know I loved that stuff as a kid too)!...like others have said, my kids have learned from things like the science channel and the nasa channel (which by the way, has some great kids programming, although it's only on for short periods at a time).

    And, yes, I do notice that some kids seem to pull learning out of everything they do, including watching TV, while other kids just seem to play for the sake of playing or watch TV just to enjoy the show.

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    Originally Posted by Iucounu
    Originally Posted by Val
    Originally Posted by JonLaw
    I was a house party once, hosted by an American Czech who married a Czech Czech. The had Czech children, so every year they would go back to Czech to pick up their child check from Czech for having Czech children (who were distinctly American and lived in America).
    I guess no one over there czeched up on them.
    I'd wager that, upon putting one of those moppets in the right cultural setting, the inner Slav will yet be revealed by a certain transformation, i.e. the Czech'll unhide.


    I have to say you all crack me up! ... that said ... I admit to not wanting to be czeched upon and as such decided against collecting checks for my Czech children who too are very much American! lol ... dual citizenship rocks!

    ... now back to the original TV programming ...

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    My kids watch too much... But although it goes in phases there are prolonged periods where all they will watch is horrible histories or Deadly 60 (animal documentaries). My eldest was a David Attenborough fiend as a toddler. Hours and hours and hours of David Attenborough and friends.... Apparently animals are a common special interest of girls with Aspergers... Suddenly the penny drops :-).

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    Originally Posted by Ephelidasa
    I just wanted to get an idea of how other parents felt about their kids TV habits. I often feel like my kids would be more excited about educational things like flash cards or puzzles if there was no TV. Or more specifically, no crappy cartoons like Ben10 or Super Hero Squad (I would never tell them that though. I know I loved that stuff as a kid too)!...like others have said, my kids have learned from things like the science channel and the nasa channel (which by the way, has some great kids programming, although it's only on for short periods at a time).

    And, yes, I do notice that some kids seem to pull learning out of everything they do, including watching TV, while other kids just seem to play for the sake of playing or watch TV just to enjoy the show.

    It was a lifestyle choice to not own a TV that my husband and I made before we had kids, but it most definitely never resulted in my kids wanting to do flash cards. smile. The two older children spent most of their time taking whatever toys they had and repurposing them into made up games or worlds. We went to the library two or three times a week and checked out armfuls of books, and they played outside a lot. By the time the youngest was born, there were DVD's and streaming videos online so that he grew up absorbing a lot more time watching videos. But he didn't just sit and watch - he would stop, back up the video and watch parts again and again until it drove me crazy.

    I tried to institute a family tradition of all of us watching a movie together once a year on Christmas Eve, but after three years, I gave up. No one actually watched the video but me. The rest of them spent the entire time analyzing lighting techniques, tearing apart fallacies in the plot or discussing historical facts about some building that showed up in the film for a few seconds. smirk

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    ... and see, we can only get "good TV" by having "good cable."

    We have Netflix (streaming and disc). So that helps. A lot of neat stuff is available there, should we choose to watch it.

    When DS does watch, it's almost always David Attenborough.

    OP, you could try getting rid of cable and limiting your kids to more educational DVDs.

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    That's how we started out with our first. No TV until he was three. Then we let him watch certain things, mostly educational, and that's pretty much all he'd ever want to watch anyway. Then we started using it as a way for him to relax because he gets kind of intense, but when our second was born it was difficult to keep her separate. So now, they both pick one show after school and that's their TV time for the day. On weekends they might watch a bit more.
    Movies are impossible because they won't sit for that long, which is probably a good thing.

    I'd like to cut back on TV, so I think I'll take advantage of the busy start to the school year and just leave it off during the week. Like you, we go to a museum almost every weekend, so a little TV mixed in with that makes for some needed rest time for the parents.

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    The shows most watched by both DS7 and DS3 include "The Universe", "How the Universe Works", and "Adventure Time". We have all of the "Adventure Time" episodes on DVR, and "The Universe" on blu ray. They also watch Planet Earth, Blue Planet, and some other things on DVD or blu ray. We also watch movies fairly often at night. This can add up to hours on a particular day, but on some days they watch none even when we're not camping or doing something else away from home.


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    Originally Posted by Iucounu
    The shows most watched by both DS7 and DS3 include "The Universe", "How the Universe Works", and "Adventure Time". We have all of the "Adventure Time" episodes on DVR, and "The Universe" on blu ray.

    Funny Adventure Time story. My mom watches DS8 in the summer while DH and I are at work. Somehow at the end of summer, cartoons came up and DS mentioned that I had banned him from watching Adventure Time. This was news to me, and I told him I probably said I didn't particularly like that show, but I didn't ban him from it. Total meltdown from DS about how he could have been watching it all summer...
    As for TV, when DS was born, my plan was very limited TV and none for a couple years, at least. Then I got to know my attention-seeking high maintenance kid and around age one started with Blues Clues (with Steve, of course). Since then, TV has fallen in with everything else-- everything in moderation.

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    Programming for preschoolers on Nick Jr and Disney consists of 20-minute programs commercial-free, and DD7 displayed an ability to pay attention and actively engage with that kind of programming as an infant... so we turned her loose. We found it to be a useful way to expose her to a wider array of vocabulary and ideas, because the conversation in the house would have been mostly about her. We credit it for some of her early language development... her first intelligible word was "Doodlebop."

    These days, DD7 would rather be playing with her friends, so while she might not be averaging 1.5+ hours/day lately, I still chose that option because we've never regulated it. Just as before, she's into programming well beyond her age, and these days her favorites are younger teen-oriented comedies like iCarly and Good Luck Charlie. She's also fascinated by How It's Made, and while she doesn't go out of her way for it, if I happen to have Mythbusters on, she'll watch it with me.

    DD has nearly always watched with actively-engaged adults, and as a visual learner, it's a great learning tool for her. Yes, that includes when she's watching what would ostensibly be intellectually-devoid content like iCarly. It doesn't come at the expense of reading, either, as she reads in her free time at school every day, and at bedtime.

    So yeah... we fell right in line with that research paper without noticing.

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    Even ds10mos doesn't zone out. We watch mostly on an iPad, and his main communicative technique is to point and say "ahhhht?". I'll let you guys work the rest of that one out. Anyway....

    The only way we don't fit with the article is on the repetition thing. DS3yrs is really into Dora right now, and he's on his second trip through the Berenstein Bears. Also, Zoboomafoo, which isn't as repetitive as Dora, but certainly formulaic. He also likes less repetitive stuff, but he does not avoid repetition.

    (Dora is great for social skills, though, gotta say)

    When DS was about 18 mos, we gave up on keeping him away from TV, and within a few months, he was asking for obscure Japanese train videos on YouTube, well enough that babysitters would have to compair notes later... "did you know there's a train called Mimigo?" "Yeah, it's what he usually means when he asks for "red and white go train" "ohhhhhhhh, yeah, that is a good way to describe it!" Ahhh sweet memories! That was back when the SLP thought he had a language delay, and we just thought he had a strange approach.

    I don't think the article said anything about kids relaxing with TV. We do 30 min TV before bed, because it's the only thing we've found that can be accessed regularly that gets him to really simmer down. It's a weird combination of being stimulated, but also focesed. No TV and we're discussing the pros and cons of war in the general case for an hour before he can sleep. Books kinda sorta work, but he isn't tired out by them, he's focused, but he just wants another and another and another... And the questions tend eventually to turn towards... Well, right now it's mostly war. And then we're back where we started.


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    We were very strict with Tv and ds (our oldest) . We only had a Tv in our bedroom and the basement until ds was 3. We would let him watch a few pbs shows (Sesame Street, Super Why, WordWorld) while I worked from home. Unfortunately, it all fell apart when I was on strict bedrest with my dd...ugh.

    As for my dd...she watches more than my ds did - but she really only likes Barney (banging my head repeatedly on a wall), Dora, Sesame, and WordWorld). Now that my ds is in school, he only watches about 30 minutes a day - which is good because it was getting out of hand this summer with 108 degree temps out.
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    Wide open here with DS6 being another high-attention seeking type. The amount of potential information embedded in shows is crazy, and he is an active watcher and picks things he hasn't seen before. Current favorites include any cooking related shows, Fetch with Ruff Ruffman, Cyberchase, and Electric Company. Only Spongebob and Phineas and Ferb have held up over time.

    We find lots of opportunities to point out positive and negative behaviors with characters and discuss. And if he repeats or asks for something from a commercial, the typical response is: "Are you letting the advertisements steal your thoughts?"

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    My DD8 still watches lots of Cyberchase online. (She usually watches videos on the computer while DD4 watches the "baby shows" on PBS Kids.)

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    Just yesterday, I learned from DS about "slide symmetry" which makes sense, but don't remember hearing about it until DS learned it on Cyberchase.

    Frequently during play, I have to be Motherboard with some sort of memory dysfunction (e.g. speaking in rhymes) while DS defeats Hacker (me too) to save Motherboard.
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    Originally Posted by Zen Scanner
    And if he repeats or asks for something from a commercial, the typical response is: "Are you letting the advertisements steal your thoughts?"

    I love that!!! (Can I borrow it? wink ) I always say "maybe... ask me closer to Christmas and I'll think about it." Yours is better.

    Actually, now that I think about it, DD9 would probably just laugh and say "yes!"

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    Just as before, she's into programming well beyond her age, and these days her favorites are younger teen-oriented comedies like iCarly and Good Luck Charlie.

    This is pretty typical, actually. Most of the 8yo girls I know watch iCarly. Actual teens don't. (Just like actual 17yos don't read Seventeen.)

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    I guess I will stand out saying that my DD6.5 watches Sponge Bob and other uneducational TV programs pretty often (every day...). Plays iPad as well until I pull it out of her hands (and not always math/science related). I used to try and show her "educational" programs as mentioned by others but with no success. She does like programs on PBS where real kids compete and answer questions (sorry, can't remember names) but Sponge Bob would be her first choice at any given time. Drives me crazy but at the same time I don't have real reasons to restrict her from watching except it is really annoying to watch yellow sponge with this ridiculous laugh. I think, this is the part where I let her have "normal" childhood to get rid of the guilt of maybe pushing her forward too much and have something to say to people when they look at me with this "you are THAT (tiger) mom"... Had to use this card at IEP meeting with "Don't get me wrong she is not studing all the time. She is even watching Sponge Bob...." LOL

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