Lorel wondered how you handle the spikier one when she wants to stop at a challenge? I may have one of those. She is in a GT progam but no individual testing. It is frustrating when I know she can do things but decides not to try but instead gets frustrated and dancing around or guessing random answers to whatever the subject is as an avoidance technique to avoid challenge. I guess this goes more under parenting so maybe you can PM me smile some suggestions for encouragement. I should say mine has spent almost 2 yrs not being challenged at this point.