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    The easiest route would probably be a certificate of completion of 1st grade from the old school. Tell them you just got it in the mail or something.

    If she has one of these, you can take it to the new school and show it to them. If you have one of these in hand, the new school's only option might be to promote her to second grade (I don't know state law where you are, so...).

    If you don't have one of these certificates in hand, call the old school and ask them if it would be reasonable to give her one. Explain the situation and ask what they can do to help.

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    Kriston,

    I feel like I'm giving up. No matter how hard I've tried to explain my son's situation to the school, I felt like banging my head against the wall, no body cares. When I mentioned the word "gifted", they thought I was bragging. My requst to enroll my son in a neighboring school district as an exception was met by deaf ears. So, I guess any more arguement would be just a waste of time.

    Considering safety issues, I'd probably send my son to a Catholic school in the day time so that I can go to work (a safe and clean day care). At home, I'll do my best to quench his thirst for knowledge as much as I can. Since you are homeschooling you DS8, I have some questions for you:

    1- Which curriculum do you recommend to use with HG child? given that DS6 mastered already 1st and 2nd grade curriculum of public school.

    2- From your experience, what did you do with your younger child, who has different needs, so that you could have sometime alone with the older one? For me, I know that this will be one of my challenges.

    3- How many hours a day you think it'd be required to spend with my son?

    3- Any other advice, or thoughts you would like to share with me regarding homeschooling? I'd highly appreciate it. Thanks alot.

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    I'm sorry that you feel you're wasting your time with the schools. I definitely feel for you! frown

    All kids and parents are different, so what works for one family may not work for another. The first year of homeschooling is usually a learning experience for the parent even more than for the child, since you have to figure out a system that works for you. We all make a lot of mistakes that first year--with schedule, with curriculum, with patience, with general approach to our kids, etc. It's normal, and it still turns out just fine. But know right now that perfectionism and homeschooling are uneasy bedfellows. Expect to learn and change as you go along. You don't have to finish everything you start.

    I can tell you that most people find that with a GT child, curriculum is the easy part. One of the nice things about homeschooling a GT child is that a lot of what you have to do is just give them interesting material and get out of the way. It's a lot less work than it sounds like, especially for younger kids.

    You might start by looking at E.D. Hirsch's "What Your Xth Grader Needs to Know" series and/or "Home Learning Year by Year" by Rebecca Rupp. They do a good job of laying out the sorts of things a child should know and the skills a child should have at each grade level. For me, they took a lot of the fear out of homeschooling because I realized that DS already knew a lot/most of the material for his grade level, so there probably wasn't much chance of his falling behind--my big worry! That freed us up to follow his interests a lot more faithfully. (I'm also a big fan of Lisa Rivero's book, BTW.)

    For that reason, I'm not using specific packaged curricula much. We use the library a lot and workbooks and other learning aids that I buy for cheap whenever I find them. I have a teaching and curriculum design background, so I really prefer to make up my own path.

    Of course, there's positively nothing wrong with using packaged curriculum. There's some good stuff out there! I just really like the freedom we have without it. For example(s): he's taking Arabic because he likes off-beat foreign languages. He studied robots and automotive engineering (very basic!) because he was interested in them. He read Dickens because he heard something about the plot of "Great Expectations" and he was interested. None of these things would be available to him in any packaged curriculum that I know of, but it was all there for my specific child. That flexibility works very well for us.

    With that said, most homeschoolers love to talk about curriculum choices and what helped them get started. There are some great threads on this forum. Search by subject, and if you don't find them, I'll be happy to help if I can. Here's a good one for getting started: http://giftedissues.davidsongifted.org/BB/ubbthreads.php/topics/40903/1.html

    I'd also STRONGLY recommend that you check out the homeschooling laws in your state. It's legal in all states, but some are much more HSing-friendly than others. Know what's required of you before you dive in.

    Dealing with the younger sibling is a thornier issue, IMHO. For the past two years, DS8 and I did our schoolwork while DS5 was in preschool. We actually stayed in the church building and worked in one of the classrooms. This worked very well for us--no distractions! I am sure it would have been a lot more challenging for me without preschool for the younger one. I'd probably have had school for both kids at the same time if we hadn't had preschool for DS5. Babysitters are a possible help, too, if you can afford one. Could the Catholic school/day care give him some of the material you want to use?

    Dazey, others with younger kids? Want to chime in here?

    The young GT kids who homeschool typically only need 2-4 hours a day for school. As they get older, more time is usually needed. Remember that one-on-one learning is very intense. More time is not always better. We usually spent 2.5 hours a day, 4 days a week this past year (what offically would have been 2nd grade), plus he had a day at a "school for homeschoolers" where he took a math class and some other fun things and got social time.

    I'm only including academics in that time. He also took an art class, a music class, and various sports for P.E. Those were all additional time--probably 3-4 additional hours per week.

    The nice thing is that when you "do school" is flexible. If you're working, you can have school in the morning before you leave and/or after work, assuming that works for both of you. If you have a good sitter or if the Catholic school/daycare will work with you, you can assign "homework" for the child to do with the sitter. Use educational videos when they apply during that time. You could also do most of the teaching on the weekends if that's when you're free, and then use the weekdays for him to read and practice what he learned on the weekends, or whatever.

    It's harder to homeschool while working, certainly, but lots of people do it. I think that breaking out of the notion that school is from 9-3 M-F is key.

    Keep talking, keep asking questions. I'm happy to help, and there are lots of other helpful people here. smile As I said, even if you decide not to homeschool, knowing you have alternatives is empowering when you deal with the school.


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    Kriston,

    Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and experience generously. Your answers were very helpful. Even though I need more time to dive into homeschooling, I just thought to drop a short message to say thank you. Down the road, I might come back to you with more questions, hope you don't mind:0) And, I hope one day I can help, too.

    P.S. If your son has any question in Arabic, I'll be more than happy to help:0)) Have a great day now.


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    Originally Posted by dalwil
    I feel like I'm giving up. No matter how hard I've tried to explain my son's situation to the school, I felt like banging my head against the wall, no body cares. When I mentioned the word "gifted", they thought I was bragging. My requst to enroll my son in a neighboring school district as an exception was met by deaf ears. So, I guess any more arguement would be just a waste of time.

    Don't give up quite yet. It isn't easy for any of us...the schools make it hard. If you read through a lot of the acceleration-related posts here, you'll see that many people (including me) have had to struggle. A key is perseverance...if it was easy, there wouldn't really be a big need for a forum like this one.

    Can your son's previous school do anything to help?

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    I'm happy to help, and I'm not alone. If you have questions, please do ask. And you've piqued my interest about your knowledge of Arabic. Thanks for the offer! smile

    BTW, I agree with Val that if you keep your child in a traditional school, persistance will be key. But I think it's okay to take another path if it's better for your family. Only you can make that call.


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    Originally Posted by dalwil
    Thank you Kriston for the idea. Unfortunately, I have to go to work to make ends meet. My husband works two jobs. Therefore, homeschooling can't be one of our options.


    Fortunately, homeschooling comes in many flavors!

    My husband and I both work full time. Even though we can't homeschool right now, it is something I aspire to down the line.

    So we are homeschoolers in our hearts, if not 100% homeschoolers in practice.
    Like JH unschoolers - learning all the time.
    http://www.amazon.com/dp/0201550911/?tag=homeschoolassoci
    http://www.educationreformbooks.net/learningallthetime.htm

    If you haven't already, I encourage you to consider "afterschooling" and other ways folks incorporate aspects of homeschooling into their lives.

    There is even a yahoo group for parents who work and homeschool.

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    Hi Dalwil,

    I'm HSing a rising 4th grader and will be adding my rising 1st grader in the fall. I also have a 2.5yr old DD. I'd be happy to answer any questions. I'm just finishing up my 1st year so I'm still a newbie.

    Hours a day depends on how on task your DS is and what you decide to HS. It takes us about 3hrs which doesn't include his reading time. DS takes frequent breaks and we have frequent interruptions from DD. plus we watch a lot of NOVA shows so that's an hour right there and DS has a history passion so he watches a history channel show or military show each day which is an hour.

    For a 6yr old, probably 2hrs I'd say.

    How old is your younger child?

    We can continue this via PM Or separate thread to get this one back on topic if wanted.

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    Thank you all for your posts. Thanks for your ecouraging words and willingness to help. It had a tremendous impact on me.

    When I came to this forum, I thought I was alone in my struggle and was looking for somebody to help me fight even more. Things turned out differently. The person I came for didn't even answer back! However, I started to get my peace back for the first time since I pulled my son out of his previous school. I think I know now what to do. Your posts and ideas helped me see the right path. God, it feels so much better to know that you're not alone, and that there are other parents out there who went through the same struggle and willing to help and share their experiences with you.

    To keep you updated, here's what I feel today is the right thing to do for my son. For safety issues, I'll enroll him in a Catholic School nearby. The good news is that they informed me that they'd allow him to skip a year! Inspired by both Kriston and EastnWest, I decided to incorporate homeschooling in our daily life. Dazed&confused, you made me believe that I can do it. Two hours/day is not too much, I hope. And I believe that the key here, as Val put it in her post, is "Perseverance." Cathy, thanks for your encouraging words.

    I'll keep coming back and As D&C suggested I might be a more frequent visitor to the homeschooling thread, or yahoo group. To you all, I'd love to help as you helped me when I needed help the most!

    And, Kriston, yes I speak Arabic, and I'd be more than happy to help your son with any questions he has.

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    Dalwill....here is a board dedicated to afterschoolers http://afterschoolers.yuku.com/bafterschoolers with a few recent HSing converts.

    Good luck! And I'm so happy to have contributed to your peace of mind. You made my day!

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