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    How important do you think imaginative play is? What do you classify as imaginative play?

    I recently saw a post on another forum about how much more important imaginative play is than academic skills. I totally agreed before I had DS3.5... But somehow he taught himself how to read at 2, & has a fascination with numbers that borders on obsession. I've tried to gently encourage imaginative play in our day to day life, but he rarely seems interested. Often he just looks at me like I'm crazy!

    We don't have as many toys as some, but I only purchase open ended toys. He has a play kitchen, a dollhouse, and a Noah's Ark with animals. Although he might play with these from time to time, he's much more interested in his Magnatiles, gears set, card games, or counting holes in the dehumidifier and creating addition problems about it. I've always told myself that these activities require creative thinking, which utilizes a form of imagination... However, I've been wondering lately if he's missing out on the more socially oriented aspects of what might be more traditionally classified as "imaginative play."

    Perhaps it's just personality. Maybe he's just not the kind of kid who's ever going to get down on all fours and bark like a dog.

    I'd love to hear what y'all think!

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    I think that it's personality related. My DS6 is much more likely that DS8 to engage in imaginative play. DS8 read at an earlier age and enjoyed legos from an early age. He's also naturally more introverted. I think that all of those things play a role (no pun intended). DS8 did not enjoy imaginative play at all until he was at least 6, and even now it's usually led by his little brother or a friend.

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    It's so interesting to see how much variety there is in personal preferences!

    My DS2.7's type of imaginative play usually centers around something he's built or a tangible new topic or social skill he's learning. For example, yesterday he used his Duplo blocks to build a bomb disposal truck and robot, and we acted out disarming a bomb. He's never seemed to like gratuitous imaginary play--there's always an underlying learning element to it, as though the drama crystallizes the new information in his mind, and then he moves on forever.

    This morning, he built a fleet of trucks who solicitously took care of two of their friends who were ill. DS was sick for a few days, so he's internalizing how to care for a sick person. He wouldn't usually find that scenario interesting had he not been sick recently, I don't think.

    We have a set of play pots and pans and a tool bench with plastic tools that he loved as a one-year-old but now totally ignores, yet he's always eager to help me cook dinner or do a real repair. We also have a set of beautiful Schleich animals that only ever seem to get used when DS is designing a building, or as fodder when he building his various machines.

    Oh, and DS wouldn't do an art project to save his soul. He'd rather describe an imaginary scenario verbally, and have me take dictation, whereas I preferred to paint one as a child.

    I think gifted children quickly see the futility in repetitive exercises that produce no meaningful (to them) output. Squishys' son's comment about pretending to be an astronaut sounds exactly like something my DS would say.


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    My kids love imaginative play and I do feel that it has a big role to play in the formative years.

    Having said that, I would not actively force a child to do anything they were not interested in, including imaginative play. My boys love to play based on things they are learning or watching on tv currently.

    So current imagination games include Harry Potter (they found an online list of all the spells used and after studying it together for days can now use all of them)
    MineCraft (esp Hunger Games)
    Frozen - any game has to have the powers variant. Then they are happy.

    Powers and Magic. Aiden is convinced magic is real but it's only a power bestowed on the super smart of the world.

    HE is happiest when HE gets to control the game and dictate who has what powers etc.

    They all have loved at some stage pretending to be an animal, and kitchen play was obsessive for all three of them. Dylan at 3 still is this way. Their grandfather built a playhouse when Aiden was turning 3, and when we moved it got moved, upgraded and enlarged - they all three still use it and the toys inside it.

    I encourage imaginative stories, and building/creating to support imagination.


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    Have you seen this for imaginative play and how all the things you describe really are in support of imagination...:

    Caine's arcade:


    I think some kids have super heroes in their imagination and other kids imagine numbers as superheroes (for example)


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    I think it's important for social growth--so much so that we taught it as a skill to DS now 11. It teaches perspective-taking and problem-solving.

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    My ds never engaged in imaginative play (at least not much) as a young child. Totally different than my dds. When my kids were really young I thought it was just personality - but once ds was mid-elementary school I realized that, for him, it was related to things that he actually needed to take steps to learn due to an expressive language disorder, things that didn't come naturally to him but come naturally to most kids, and that are very important in social interactions as our children grow. So my perspective now is that yes, it's important, and for some kids, you have to help them learn it just as you would teach any other skill.

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    Originally Posted by KathrynH
    But somehow he taught himself how to read at 2, & has a fascination with numbers that borders on obsession. I've tried to gently encourage imaginative play in our day to day life, but he rarely seems interested. Often he just looks at me like I'm crazy!

    he's much more interested in his Magnatiles, gears set, card games, or counting holes in the dehumidifier and creating addition problems about it.

    Perhaps it's just personality. Maybe he's just not the kind of kid who's ever going to get down on all fours and bark like a dog.

    I have one of those, and I can tell you with a fair amount of certainty that you're right. He's never going to do that, and if he has a sister in the future who does, he's going to think she's crazy, too. smile

    I don't know how important imagination may be, but I do know that some people don't have it, and they do ok. Or, more accurately, they don't have a conventional imagination, which sounds like an oxymoron but isn't. Some people's imagination is channeled into numbers and engineering, while others pretend to be dogs. I have one of each. smile

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    Originally Posted by Madoosa
    Have you seen this for imaginative play and how all the things you describe really are in support of imagination...:

    Caine's arcade:


    I think some kids have super heroes in their imagination and other kids imagine numbers as superheroes (for example)


    Thanks for the link! It kind of sums up how I was feeling about imaginative play. It seems like it can take very different forms depending on the child's personality. DS is pretty introverted. It sounds if others might have similar experiences with their introverted kids?

    And if numbers can be superheroes - that's exactly where DS is.


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    I have one of those, and I can tell you with a fair amount of certainty that you're right. He's never going to do that, and if he has a sister in the future who does, he's going to think she's crazy, too. smile

    I don't know how important imagination may be, but I do know that some people don't have it, and they do ok. Or, more accurately, they don't have a conventional imagination, which sounds like an oxymoron but isn't. Some people's imagination is channeled into numbers and engineering, while others pretend to be dogs. I have one of each. smile


    I remember when DS was around 20 months, we were with a cousin who was only a couple of months younger. The cousin picked up a remote control and began babbling away as if it was a phone. DS looked at us with a face filled with concern and said in a hushed voice, "It's a remote!" He clearly thought there was something wrong with the poor child!

    There are a few engineers and science PhDs in our family, and it seems like that's exactly how DS thinks. He once had a language therapist who asked at their 2nd meeting, "Do you have any engineers in your family?" It's that obvious I guess.

    Originally Posted by polarbear
    My ds never engaged in imaginative play (at least not much) as a young child. Totally different than my dds. When my kids were really young I thought it was just personality - but once ds was mid-elementary school I realized that, for him, it was related to things that he actually needed to take steps to learn due to an expressive language disorder, things that didn't come naturally to him but come naturally to most kids, and that are very important in social interactions as our children grow. So my perspective now is that yes, it's important, and for some kids, you have to help them learn it just as you would teach any other skill.

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    I wonder sometimes about DS's expressive language. He's definitely ahead of the milestones in this area, but he has some quirks that make me think... For example, he often has trouble coming up with words. He'll use ambiguous terms like "that" or "this" and when I press him to explain what he's talking about, it's clear that the words just won't come right away (even for items I've heard him call by name repeatedly).

    He also has trouble expressing himself if anyone else is talking. He'll say, "I want you to be quiet! I'm trying to talk!" And then he'll just sit there for a minute saying, "Um... uh... um..." Finally something will come out, but it takes a while to gather his thoughts.

    It can also take a fair amount of time for him to process directions. Could be processing... could be language... could be completely developmentally appropriate. At any rate, I'm sure he'd pass any language evaluation, so I don't really know if there's much we could do outside the home. I just think there's a gap in ability and performance. (If that makes sense.)

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    DD too would think anyone who wants to pretend to be a dog is crazy.

    She started doing pretend play when she was 21 months but it was never her thing. Age 2/3, she was very academically oriented but around 38 months or so, she became that child who could play for hours with an empty box and a stick. I didn't do anything to make this change happen. For her, it was purely developmental.

    She lives in her capes and costumes. She is a very imaginative/theatrical child and I am happy that her interests have expanded even if it means she loves My Little Pony. I think it'd make socialization easier for her. She wasn't making many friends when all she wanted to talk about was the possibility of fishing on Europa within her life time.

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