Can anybody help with IQ scores? What does this information mean interms of his educatioN?

ds9 broad score from Woodcock Johnson III Achievement test May of 2009.
BEFORE 3rd Grade.
Broad Reading 133, 99%
Broad Math 145, 99.9%
Broad Written 127, 97%


Wechsler Intelligence Scale for Children WISC IV scaled scores (Average 8-12)


Full scale IQ 140, 99.6 percentile

Similarities 16
Vocabulary 18
Comprehension 16
Verbal Comrehensio Index =140, 99.6 th percentile

Block Design ` 17
Picture Concepts 12
Matrix Reasoning 18
Perceptual Reasoning Index 135, 99th percentile



Digit Span 14
Arithmetric 14
Working Memory Index = 123, 94th percentile



coding 12
Symbol Search 16
Processing Speed Index = 123, 94th percentile



Interpretation of Assessment

He achieved a Full Scale IQ score of 140. This score falls within the Very Superior range and exceeds 99.6 percent of students nationally standardized age group. Areas of particular strenght for him were suggested by his performance in the areas of language development, overall verbal comprehension, nonverbal/perceptual reaoning involved in arranging blocks to match a given design. His cognitive ability status is likely to have a very positive impact on his educational performance as a whole.

I love when parents call it right on their kids! Is that a GAI of 148?

Oops. Just noted that was for canadian norms. Rookie! Bet it's near there- Good luck OntheGoMom

Amazing scores, have nothing more to add really! He will pretty much be able to go to any college he wants and choose any profession he wants.

Did you calculate the GAI score? I am getting a total of 97, which translates into a GAI of 146, 99.9th percentile (if I am reading the tables right...).

In other words, YSP qualifying scores. He already had the math achievement. Did they tell you to just send in the new information when you got it?'

You got it just in time to apply again this month, now with the required extra information.

Very strong subtest scores overall. Does the lower Picture concepts enlighten you someway?

Does the GAI score come from IQ? I sent in the WWJIII achievement with qualifing scores in Math 145. I was thinking with these IQ scores they would need to be 145 to be considered for DYS. I was looking at a chart for IQ on hoagies and gifted levels. If I'm remembering 160 IQ is PG. This is confusing to me. This seems like a big gap between 140 and 160.

I don't get what lower picture means to me. Actually this whole test is a mystery to me.

thanks Dotti - very helpful.

I didn't even realize what day it was. I will fax it today. Thanks! You probably just saved me another month of waiting. I started working on the application in June, so talk about dragging it out and driving myself crazy....

I'd just fax it over with the cover that Dottie suggests and forget about extra portfolio items unless they request them.

If anyone would like to help me undertand the IQ results better I would appreciate it. Is there a guide to know what all these things are?

It seems like the results are very close with the achievement test as the overall is 99.6 and 145 & 146 on both. Would you conclude that he is consistent in testing and these went well?

I would like to know what is the picture concepts? By this lowest score would you think that's an area he could use more help in?

I was surprized the Math is a lower score because I thought that was his strongest area.

Is coding about figuring out codes?

In Picture Concepts, you are presented with three rows of pictures of objects. You are to circle one picture from each row in such a way that the three pictures that you've circled form a category.

In Coding, you are given a key where each of the nine digits is paired with a symbol. You are also given a page of digits written in random order but with no symbols underneath them. Using a key, you are to write the correct symbol underneath each digit as quickly as possible. The more symbols you are able to write in a preset amount of time, the higher your score. This subtest tests short-term memory/rate of acquisition of new information. In order to fill many blanks with correct symbols, you can't refer to the key all the time and have to memorize with which symbol each digit is paired with very quickly. This subtest is often lower for kids as it doesn't really test reasoning but rather memory, something which is harder to improve and compensate and depends on brain integrity which is why it is also very sensitive to any kind of LD/brain dysfunction (definitely not your case though).

Arithmetic subtest is solving arithmetic word problems presented orally without paper and pencil but rather in your head. Also keep in mind that this subtest is timed so if you need time to calculate or more likely, you need the problem reread as you haven't grasped everything from the first read, you won't get bonus points for speed.

Hope it was helpful!

Here's a nice link to a bunch of detail from the publisher about the WISC-IV test:
http://www.pearsonassessments.com/HAIWEB/Cultures/en-us/Productdetail.htm?Pid=015-8979-044

You can also do a Google Book search for WISC-IV. Even though the results are "limited previews," you can generally glean quite a bit of info.

And... if you still thirst for more info, let me introduce you to Dumont & Willis:
http://alpha.fdu.edu/psychology/WISCIV_Index.htm

Lastly, I wouldn't treat any individual sub-test result as a call for remediation -- just understand that he is stronger in some areas than others.

thanks everybody!

I looked over that information and I think you need a degree in psychology to get very far in understanding.

No degree... just persistence and patience.

Dandy - ok. thanks for the encouragement. Maybe I'll give it a try again another day.