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Posted By: Artana Advice for IEP Meeting - 05/07/10 01:51 PM
Hello all,
As I have said many times, my DS8 has AS. He has been doing really well this year, but in the past couple of months his behavior has become an issue at times. For example, his Gifted teacher wanted to do some unstructured work and he was very adamant about not doing it, to the point of kicking a chair.
The school wants to implement a behavior system called 1-2-3 Magic. I have never heard of it, though I Googled it, and I was wondering if anyone is familiar with it and what they think of it. I am supposed to go to the meeting on Monday and I want to go armed with information. It seemed very cold to me. I appreciate all the help I can get.
Posted By: DeeDee Re: Advice for IEP Meeting - 05/07/10 02:44 PM
My kid HATED 1-2-3 Magic, and it escalated his anxiety tremendously, creating new problems instead of solving them. I would be wary of using it with an AS kid.

If they are having behavior problems, I would insist on their doing a functional behavior analysis (you should probably request it in writing). This involves their taking data on each behavior incident: what was going on when it happened, what the child did, and what the consequences were. Having each event documented allows you to see patterns: does it only happen during math? Does the child use behavior to escape a boring classroom? Once you pinpoint how the child is using the behavior, you can design a solution with the team.

Best,
DeeDee
Posted By: Kate Re: Advice for IEP Meeting - 05/07/10 05:52 PM
Artana, I was given the book 1,2,3 Magic and it does appear cold. I don't think it is a bad thing, it is more of trying to teach the parent to remain unemotional and calm to prevent escalation. My DS (ASD also) and I did use it, but he figured out he had 3 chances before consequences, which is way too many chances for him!!! We stick with what we learned in ABA that one warning is given stating what the consequences will be if the behavior is repeated and then absolutely always following through.

Again, agreeing with Dee, it sounds like you need to request an FBA at your IEP meeting. (btw, 1 chair kicking incident is nothing...we had a double desk flip) smile Nan
Posted By: passthepotatoes Re: Advice for IEP Meeting - 05/09/10 03:37 AM
Agreeing strongly with DeeDee. I've read 123 Magic and the approach is exactly opposite of what many kids need.

http://www.amazon.com/Asperger-Syndrome-Difficult-Moments-Practical/dp/1931282706 This is a good book and may provide some appropriate alternatives.




Posted By: Artana Re: Advice for IEP Meeting - 05/10/10 01:09 PM
Thank you for the comments and information. I am going to steer this conversation to "Is my child defiant, or does he have Aspegers?" All the people in the IEP meeting should know the answer to that. I think then we can work on, "Should he be treated as a defiant child?"
Posted By: Kate Re: Advice for IEP Meeting - 05/10/10 02:08 PM
Originally Posted by Artana
Thank you for the comments and information. I am going to steer this conversation to "Is my child defiant, or does he have Aspegers?" All the people in the IEP meeting should know the answer to that. I think then we can work on, "Should he be treated as a defiant child?"


Just fyi, my son has an autism diagnosis and the IEP team says it does not matter in regards to his behavior. According to them, if DS is to stay in a mainstream class, his behavior has to be like the mainstream kids. I don't know if you will get that attitude or not (I hope not) but I was surprised and shocked. Nan
Posted By: DeeDee Re: Advice for IEP Meeting - 05/10/10 04:51 PM
In my (limited) experience, anxiety caused by AS can look exactly like defiance. Presented with a task he thinks he cannot possibly do, and unsure of what the consequences will be if he can't finish it, the child bursts into tears, rips up the assignment, checks out, whatever.

Looks like defiance to them; but if they can break the assignment down into meaningful small steps with positive reinforcement at each step, that behavior may disappear completely. The IEP can specify strategies of this kind.

It can also help if you treat the anxiety with meds or therapy or both.

DeeDee
Posted By: Artana Re: Advice for IEP Meeting - 05/10/10 07:26 PM
I spent the beginning of the IEP reminding them that DS's behavior was a symptom of his Aspeger's, not defiance. I told them I am not against a discipline plan for him whatsoever, but that I wanted to make sure we were all approaching the problem from the same headspace.

After a bit of defensiveness, the meeting went really well. Some of the resource teachers that work with my son made comments about parts of the behavior plan increasing his anxiety levels, which made my day. I think it was overall a very positive meeting. We'll see about the implementation of everything.:)
Posted By: Kate Re: Advice for IEP Meeting - 05/10/10 07:50 PM
Hooray!! Glad to hear it went well over all. I know all about the defensiveness and them sitting there with their arms crossed LOL. Great job, grats to you! Nan
Posted By: DeeDee Re: Advice for IEP Meeting - 05/11/10 01:09 AM
Congrats to you. Keep educating them, you'll get somewhere.

DeeDee
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