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Posted By: melmichigan Explore test results for February - 03/26/10 12:05 AM
Has anyone got theirs yet? smile
Posted By: Cricket2 Re: Explore test results for February - 03/26/10 12:14 AM
Okay, I was kind of grouchy when I saw the title to this thinking that others were getting these in before we did! No, we haven't gotten dd's yet. I expect them to be here next week or at least I hope that they will be.
Posted By: zarfkitty Re: Explore test results for February - 03/26/10 03:28 AM
We're still waiting, too.
Posted By: melmichigan Re: Explore test results for February - 03/26/10 05:05 PM
Ours came today!!!
Posted By: Little House Re: Explore test results for February - 03/26/10 05:07 PM
Ours came today too!
Posted By: OhioDad Re: Explore test results for February - 03/26/10 07:06 PM
I just checked and ours hasn't come yet. We will wait for another week or so. Glad to know that they have started sending the result.

Thanks
Posted By: Taminy Re: Explore test results for February - 03/27/10 03:48 PM
We got ours yesterday too. Given the number of questions DD10 (5th grade) had told me that she left blank in each section, I was prepared for a lot of much lower scores (she never got to, and therefore left completely blank, the last 5 in math, 5 or 6 in english and--she thinks--7 in science. I thought she had said 9 in science, but that seems unlikely...). Her reading she finished, but it did go down a bit. She was close to ceiling last year though, so I knew that that was a possibility.

This has been a valuable experience for her. It's clear that the test taking skills are still an issue for her, so we'll look at doing this again. She is in general a slow worker--I've never seen her able to rush through something, even when she is motivated by what she gets to do next. Not surprisingly, time management is a major skill she still needs to acquire, as is learning to work differently than IRL. For instance, she told me that she rechecked each problem as she went, rather than waiting and re-checking at the end. Also, she didn't want to use her calculator if she thought she could figure it out on her own. She is apparently quite accurate, since she didn't get to the last five problems and still came out with an 18 in math, but if she was using recommended test taking strategies, it is likely that that score would have been higher.

The biggest surprise to me has been her difficulty with the science part. She doesn't love science, but she is such a strong reader, that it surprised me that she had so much difficulty with it and had so many questions she never even got to read. It ended up being her lowest score and, looking at my NUMATS from last year, the only one in which she wasn't well above the mean in her grade-level group (she is actually slightly below the mean for fifth graders). That makes me curious about the science test. For the many of you who had DCs with high scores on science, would you say that it is a topic they generally enjoy? Are they big non-fiction readers? I'm also wondering if they're in science programs )at home or school) that consist of a few topics explored in depth, or in programs with a lot of breadth? (I'm a bit of an assessment junkie blush I always want to understand what kind of skills/talents a test actually draws upon).

Posted By: Dazed&Confuzed Re: Explore test results for February - 03/27/10 04:02 PM
If I recall correctly from the practice book, the science seemed more reasoning problems. It didn't depend on prior scientific knowledge. I think it would require that one be able to read quickly and assimilate information and draw conclusions quickly. But then again, we are a science family so what seems obvious to me, is probably not to others.

My DS sounds similar to your DD as far as testing. I'm not holding out any hopes for high scores on the Explore but it was a good, positive experience for him. He too would rather work it out in his head than have to pick up a pencil but he'd be faster if he did it on paper w/ fewer mistakes. He's also perfectionistic about math (I think from never being challenged in school and never getting anything wrong - now even w/ a year of HSing under his belt, if he misses a problem he shuts down to that topic).
Posted By: Dazed&Confuzed Re: Explore test results for February - 03/27/10 08:21 PM
Anyone else still waiting for February results?
Posted By: momtofour Re: Explore test results for February - 03/27/10 08:26 PM
My ds9 (fourth grade) took it for the first time and it definitey corresponded to what I would have expected. His scores were:
Composite 19
English 17
Math 19
Reading 17
Science 21
I don't really know what you'd consider "high" on the Science, but for us, I thought 21 was high-especially given that we did no prep, do no enrichment, etc. However, ds loves science. He says he wants to be a biologist. His oldest sister, my dd19, is a junior in college majoring in Biology. They talk sometimes (her college is close, although she lives there)and he loves to discuss biology things. But, he doesn't really read about science- he prefers fiction.
I'm not surprised that reading is his lowest. He has high verbal scores and had a very high lexile reading level, but he's much better with factual or literal texts. His pullout gifted program does a lot of Junior-Great-Books-style interpretive questions and the like, and that's a challenge for him. I don't think his school has a particularly strong English program (still more reading as opposed to learning grammar, etc) so I would expect that to be lower. So, I think that the science part was high because it matched his interest in science, his high reading level and his general intelligence, but didn't require the nuanced interpretations that are hard for him.
I think that it helped that he went relatively fast. I was worried because we hadn't really prepped at all and he didn't want to wear a watch (I pulled out the ticket that morning and realized that he didn't have one and offered him mine, lol) but he said that he thinks he finished them all. However, he said science was close.
We haven't done any enrichment in math, but he does do accelerated math (one year ahead). I'm sure that there were things he hadn't been exposed to, but he seeemed happy when he finished the test.
The funny thing was, last year he scored in the 75%-ile on the 3rd grade math ISAT. I wasn't concered since he was already in 4th grade math (acceleration starts grade 3 here) and has always found it very easy, but it's kind of funny that he scored 75%-ile against kids a year behind him in math, and then 89th%-ile against 8th graders.
When he came out of the ISATs he said, "boring!!" but when he came out of the EXPLORE test he said, "I liked it; it was fun."

It was a good experience for us overall, and even though he didn't score super highly, he certainly did well enough for me to feel good about where he's at and realize that enrichment would be a good thing for him!

He would LOVE to take the Biology class offered this summer at CTD (we live about an hour away) but with one in college, one a rising college Freshman and another brother who also needs camps this summer, it's hard to justify over $1,000. Sigh...

(I hope it's okay for non-Davidson people to post here. I've been reading it since we thought about doing Explore and it's really informative!)

Theresa
Posted By: Mam Re: Explore test results for February - 03/27/10 08:35 PM
Hi Theresa, those are really great scores for a 4th grader. It is absolutely OK for non-Davidson people to post here, it is an open forum. Speaking of, your ds's scores do qualify him for DYS. You still would need more information to apply (IQ test or portfolio), but I thought you'd like to know.

Very cool that he has his sister to talk biology with.
Posted By: Dazed&Confuzed Re: Explore test results for February - 03/27/10 08:42 PM
Great scores Momtofour!
Posted By: momtofour Re: Explore test results for February - 03/27/10 11:59 PM
Thanks for the info about DYS. We haven't planned on getting IQ testing, although I guess we could. We have four kids and only the oldest was tested, due to other issues (she came out PG). The thing is, mostly, my ds seems like any other kid, and on top of that, he has an expressive language and speech production issue (apraxia). When I'm at school volunteering, honestly, the other kids seem pretty slow, but it's not like ds is coming up to me and saying, 'hey look mom, I just created a new chemical compound.' When we talk to him about stuff, he seems to get it very quickly, but he doesn't seem "out there" like I expect really gifted kids to seem (although neither does dd, and she is supposedly PG :)).

And he does like talking Biology. His test scores guilted me into buying a Biology kit to do a project for the school science/special interest fair (any display is okay, doesn't have to really be science fair material). With dd17's senior year, the other kids are getting a lot less attention. frown

Thanks for the welcome!
Theresa
Posted By: Taminy Re: Explore test results for February - 03/28/10 08:53 PM
Originally Posted by Dottie
a math score of 18 is for 24/25 right out of 30, so it sounds like she really did nail the ones she got to.

My goodness Dottie--you are an amazing wealth of information! So now I'm curious about the other subtests....Do you know how many correct answers would lead to a 17 in science or to a 19 in english? My interpretation of what she knows/is able to do is, I think, a little bit different depending on whether she is getting answers wrong, or if her score mostly reflects her speed. Obviously I have no way of knowing whether she would have correctly answered questions she never even got to read, but if what she did do for science/english was accurate that's a little different than not finishing the subtests AND not knowing the ones she got to. KWIM? Not sure what we're going to do about the time issue with her--it seems like everything takes her 30x longer than it needs to take (Seriously. This is kid who will forget that she's on the way out the door--already late--and will sit down with a book or a drawing pad somewhere on her way to fetch her coat eek ).

To everyone else who's been posting: congrats on all the amazing scores. It's a good perspective check for me to see what "WOW!" can really look like wink (we're more in the wow school of GT than the WOW school of GT smile ). You all have some pretty amazing kiddos!
Posted By: Cricket2 Re: Explore test results for February - 03/28/10 10:04 PM
Originally Posted by Taminy
(we're more in the wow school of GT than the WOW school of GT smile ).
Us too, so don't feel lonely smile!
Posted By: zarfkitty Re: Explore test results for February - 03/30/10 05:11 PM
Is anyone else still waiting for the mail? My DD is in Duke TIP.

update: today's mail came. Still waiting.
Posted By: zarfkitty Re: Explore test results for February - 03/31/10 10:30 PM
Ack! Empty mailbox today! This is excruciating.
Posted By: melmichigan Re: Explore test results for February - 03/31/10 11:06 PM
I wonder why it differs so much?
Posted By: Dazed&Confuzed Re: Explore test results for February - 03/31/10 11:48 PM
WOW! I thought I was the last one w/ getting them on Monday. Surely it must be tomorrow. Keeping my fingers crossed for you.
Posted By: zarfkitty Re: Explore test results for February - 04/01/10 10:03 PM
Empty mailbox again. I called Duke TIP this morning and they said that results were "trickling in." Am I the only one? Is anyone else still waiting?
Posted By: Dazed&Confuzed Re: Explore test results for February - 04/01/10 11:46 PM
Oh no! I was hoping to read you received the scores and they were all in the 20s!

hugs!
Posted By: MNTCMom Re: Explore test results for February - 04/04/10 09:03 PM
Dottie,
I've just PM'ed you, hoping for insights on the number of questions got right for one section. Thank you.
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