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Posted By: oddlyeven Taking SAT before age 10 - 05/29/14 06:09 PM
Wondering anyone else encountered issues with SAT registration for kids younger than 10 years old?

DC's SAT application got returned due to "Date of birth is missing or invalid" even though the birthday was entered correctly. When we contacted College Board, 9 out of 10 representatives stated there is no minimum age requirement, but one person stated kids younger than 10yo cannot take the SAT. Is this true? Is this a new rule?

Any BTDT or advice on SAT registration for younger kids? If testing through a talent search program, which one do you recommend? (Duke TIP program said the child has to be in the 7th grade to take the SAT through them.)

Thanks!
Posted By: aeh Re: Taking SAT before age 10 - 05/29/14 06:41 PM
My sibling was nine, so I know it is definitely possible, but this was a while ago. It was through what was then the JHU Talent Search, back in the original Stanley & Benbow days.

And, BTW, if there's no rule that says a seventh-grader can't be nine, why not try that.
Posted By: Bostonian Re: Taking SAT before age 10 - 05/29/14 06:52 PM
Originally Posted by oddlyeven
Any BTDT or advice on SAT registration for younger kids? If testing through a talent search program, which one do you recommend? (Duke TIP program said the child has to be in the 7th grade to take the SAT through them.)
Our 6th-grader tested through NUMATS.
Posted By: HowlerKarma Re: Taking SAT before age 10 - 05/29/14 07:00 PM
The only restriction that I'm aware of is that if you are under thirteen years of age, net laws prohibit online registration (well, not exactly, but CB has apparently interpreted things that way), so you have to mail the application rather than registering the way most students do. We had to do that with a College Board test.


I can't say if 10 is magical in some way, since DD was older than that at the time.
Posted By: DeeDee Re: Taking SAT before age 10 - 05/29/14 07:15 PM
To misquote Calvin and Hobbes: "ten-year-olds wreck the grade curve."
Posted By: NotSoGifted Re: Taking SAT before age 10 - 05/29/14 07:24 PM
When did you register? The June SAT registration date passed a while ago, and you can't register yet for Fall 2014. And if 9 out of 10 said it was okay, couldn't they push the registration through? I have never called College Board, but the ACT folks were pretty helpful when I called them.

Even when you go through a talent search, you register directly with the College Board, so I don't think the talent search will help. I would call back and speak to someone (preferably someone who says there is not an age restriction). Maybe you can still get in for the June test as a standby.
Posted By: oddlyeven Re: Taking SAT before age 10 - 05/30/14 01:37 PM
Thank you for your responses!

1. Due to DC being younger than 13yo, paper registration was sent in the first week of May. (Wished parents could set up online acconts for these younger kids!) By the time we received the returned registration, the regular registration deadline has passed. We sent in another paper registration with the late fee. Still waiting.

2. One odd aspect of our multiple communication with the College Board is no one was able to locate DC's application, even after we gave the barcode on his returned application/check. It was odd that there was no record at all in the system.

3. Thank you for the suggestion of talent searches. It might be worth trying.

4. We will also try to give College Board a call again and see if someone would push the application through this time.

Thanks again!
Posted By: Lily1972 Re: Taking SAT before age 10 - 09/21/15 07:50 PM
Dear oddlyeven, I am currently in the exact same situation as you were a year ago. So what happened to your registration? Did you succeed? My son is 8.5 years and my registration process for him has been exactly the same as yours, currently without a resolution... so frustrating.
Posted By: VR00 Re: Taking SAT before age 10 - 09/22/15 07:36 PM
I am wondering what the driver is to take SAT below 10?

Has the kid maxed out on the ACT Explore test?
Posted By: Quantum2003 Re: Taking SAT before age 10 - 09/22/15 10:04 PM
Different talent searches handle it differently. As of this past spring, if you use NUMATS, it is a single step process. You input the info online at the NUMATS site after paying the SAT plus NUMATS fees. No paper registration required. If you are homeschooling, you can probably list him as a 6th grader; otherwise their system may not allow you to register online.

Another option is JHU-CTY but they don't routinely test students below 7th grade. If your child is not at least a 7th grader, you will need to request paper registration from JHU-CTY in writing. I think that it may be easier to get an exception approved if you are part of a talent search.

As part of your request, it may be helpful if you can demonstrate that your child is ready to take the SAT independently. For example, he already hit the ceiling on Explore but needs the SAT for entry into a particular program. He is able to and intends to complete not just the 3-4 math sections but the other 6-7 sections as well so won't be a distraction to other test-takers. He doesn't require special accommodations and is able to navigate the building independently during check-in and breaks, etc.
Posted By: madeinuk Re: Taking SAT before age 10 - 09/22/15 10:06 PM
Jan 23 2016 the last date that the current already dumbed down SAT Maths test will be available.

After that date it will have an even lower ceiling so that Mass Education(TM) can claim that even more students are College Ready (TM).

This might be a motivator here.
Posted By: Lily1972 Re: Taking SAT before age 10 - 09/25/15 02:23 PM
Well said.
Posted By: VR00 Re: Taking SAT before age 10 - 09/25/15 03:41 PM
Not familiar with the lowering of standards on the SAT test. I just found this article.

http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/article...-should-know-about-the-new-sat-math-test

Can some point to any study on this?
Posted By: madeinuk Re: Taking SAT before age 10 - 09/25/15 07:29 PM
Cutting down on geometry, substituting in data analysis simple enough for non STEM majors to handle while studying for undergraduate degrees and allowing calculators is dumbing down in my book.

Let's not beat about the bush here - the SAT changes are politically motivated and they are being made to give people with lower aptitude for Maths a chance to appear better than they actually are. Lowering the ceiling is moving in the wrong direction.

All so that companies like Pearson can slap themselves on the back (and collect fat government cheques) for delivering dross to those kids not fortunate enough to have involved parents that can spot this BS a continent away.
Posted By: indigo Re: Taking SAT before age 10 - 09/25/15 08:26 PM
Originally Posted by madeinuk
delivering dross...
Agreed, but with one caveat: dross for all.

Originally Posted by VR00
Can some point to any study on this?
Letting the college board speak for itself, the new SAT is described here: https://collegereadiness.collegeboard.org/, which includes, in part:
The tests are designed to:
•Measure the essential ingredients for college and career readiness and success, as shown by research.
(Emphasis added)
The College Board does not cite the research it is referring to. Despite an emphasis on ostensibly encouraging "access", "critical thinking", reading of primary source documents, and "data analysis", ironically the College Board does not empower the public with access to source documents or data to analyze and think critically about, to weigh what is driving the College Board changes to the SAT and Suite of College Assessments.

Some may say this lack of "access" and transparency is poor role modeling on the part of the College Board. Possibly the College Board believes it is powerful beyond questioning or reproach.

Some may say that College Board withholding the source(s) of mentioned research may tend to indicate that the research is not convincing and/or does not come out strongly in favor of the changes. Another possibility, ignoring chronological order, is that pressure is being applied to higher education institutions, to provide the answers that College Board wants, retroactively, in order to seemingly have driven the changes already made. Interested parties may contact College Board to inquire about the mentioned research and request that it be made public and easily accessible on the College Board webpage on which it is mentioned.


Meanwhile, if it helps the OP to know which version of the test their child would take, this link presents a chart of cutover dates. As mentioned upthread by another poster, the redesigned SAT will be administered beginning in March 2016.
Posted By: indigo Re: Taking SAT before age 10 - 10/03/15 02:15 PM
Those interested in validity and reliability may wish to turn their attention to the College Board claim that the SAT was redesigned "to measure the essential ingredients for college and career readiness and success, as shown by research" and possibly question details of that undisclosed research.

Soon the SAT changes will be impacting ALL students, including those under age 10.
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