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Posted By: tofu Do you ever feel like you're in over your head - 01/15/10 05:28 PM
...with your gifted child?

I find myself really overwhelmed sometimes. At the moment I'm really going through an "I'm not sure I can do this" stage.

I have 3 kids and the eldest has ADHD, my youngest is just 4 and my middle one is the most precocious. I know, there are many people who have waaaay more on board than I do and knowing that makes me feel guilty for being overwhelmed.

My middle one woke me up at some crazy hour this morning because he wanted me to help him figure out how many days are in 1 million minutes. Then my eldest gets up and wants to talk about computers and the little one is a big ball of energy. Its only 9.23am and I'm exhausted!
Thanks, Cricket. I already feel a ton better knowing that I'm not alone.

Your house sounds a LOT like mine! Since I posted the OP, my 10 year old has been here discussing the logistics of making a suit for his latest movie idea and how he is going to finish writing his script today, my 4 year old started doing a 50 piece puzzle and my 6 year old is sitting next to me building a new robot and nagging me about the fact that nobody wants to play Monopoly with him.
I only have 2 and can barely keep it together! The second is thankfully more into toys and entertaining himself than the first, who still demands constant social interaction. But I can't even use the computer while the 15 month old is awake because he screams to get online. He doesn't have the touchpad down yet so I have to help him, and Starfall is driving me bonkers. I guess I should just view it as building endurance for the endless games of Candyland which are soon to come. I often wonder if I'm anemic or something because I'm exhausted by noon, but then I remember that I'm just old.
You are definitely not alone Tofu and I'm pretty sure my oldest is "only" a Level 2!!

Anyone got workbook lovers? How about going through 9 pages in one book then 16 pages in another book in one sitting?? And a break down when I call it quits!!

My dd is also a Monopoly lover - we have the Garfield edition so she is extremely selective about what pawn she is (NOT the hamburger).

Or when we are driving down the road, asking how to spell just about anything and everything including stuff I have to stop and think how to spell myself.

And what about patterns!! Seeing and commenting on every pattern that is around us!! She has been ASKING for patterns "school work" for quite some time now.

Or the correcting! Correcting stuff you say or if you mis-read a word in a book. She even corrected her fluent German-speaking grandfather when he didn't say "zwei" as clearly as she would have liked!!

Then baby dd chasing me with books to read to her. In need of constant interaction as well.
I put myself in time out when it gets too bad. laugh I tell my girls that Mommy is in time out and no one can talk to her until the timer rings. Since they know they get in trouble when they talk during time out they actually leave me alone.
Of course it only gives you 1-3 minutes of quiet time, wink but there are days that that is all it takes to calm down and refocus on how to get them doing something on their own.

I have also turned my ears off for periods of time before. grin I let them talk away to me and simply don't respond. It took awhile for me to be able to do this, but after a few times if me basically ignoring them, they learned that they need to be quiet for a while or Mommy will have her ears turned off for a long time.

Otherwise, I am a big fan of sending them out to run around the yard ___ times (as many times as they are years old) . Then they have to do either sit ups or jumping jacks or just jumps while they count to some number. A bit of physical activity seems to get their brain working on its own and then they don't require as much attention when they get back in.

I've also actually phone a relative or friend and made them ask their question(s) to who ever is at home on the other end of the line. It gives me a break, the grandparents a chance to talk to them and be involved in their latest obsession. smirk Not to mention giving them an idea of what we actually go through most days.
Just about every day...Hang in there!
every single day!!! We homeschool DS7 and there are many, many days where I wonder how in the world I keep up the pace with him! My little guy wants to know everything at what seems like every second of the day! Today he designed 3 new games that were so detailed my head was spinning...agggggggg
OMG! I feel so good reading this. I remember when DD was only two and I asked my Ped if something was wrong with her because she can never just sit and watch a movie like her twin 2yr old cousins. She always has to be getting into stuff and over-examining.

I work in a high pressure job and some nights when I come home and she wants to do workbooks or read a 68 page chapter book all at once or wants to watch mythbusters while asking me 1million questions about what they are doing I want to cry.

I feel so bad becuase I know she is just so hungry to learn more and talk to grown ups after a day in first grade hell, but it can be overwhelming.

To all of you with more than one child, I bow to you. I'd have run away by now, LOL
I'm amazed by the resilience of those of you with more than one. DS2.7 is just finally went to sleep about a hour ago and he'll be up again at 6 and raring to go.

What makes me feel in over my head is not so much that I have less energy than him, because having met plenty of energetic little boys I expected that. And with just one between two parents we do manage the time committment okay. My in over my head feeling is that I can't keep up with him in some cognitive ways, and he's still only a toddler.

Our day is a endless litany of lines from books we've read that are relevant to the moments of our day. Because originally it was only a few well-read books that DH, I and DS knew by heart it was fun to go back and forth with lines, pretend to be the characters, etc. It was a rich aspect to our days. But now DS knows a very large number of books fully and recalls parts of ones last read 6 or more months ago and I can not keep up. Not at all. He is not socially mature enough to understand the difference between me not being capable of going back and forth with lines or remembering plots, and not wanting to or refusing to play. It's probably confusing that I can do it sometimes but not others. So both of us are really frustrated. It seems to come up many times a day that mommy has a old brain.

And then there's that he's so easily bored that verbal stories don't hold his attention more than a couple times, and songs can't be sung more than once every couple weeks, etc. Puzzles were great for a while but he is currently bored of them. Mazes were great for a while but he's currently bored of them. Playdoh is still pretty cool so he spends hours a day making playdoh pretend things. I try to convince myself that he's learning independence when he wanders around at loose ends... but really I'd prefer to feel like I was keeping up.

Polly
Originally Posted by Polly
But now DS knows a very large number of books fully and recalls parts of ones last read 6 or more months ago and I can not keep up. Not at all. He is not socially mature enough to understand the difference between me not being capable of going back and forth with lines or remembering plots, and not wanting to or refusing to play. It's probably confusing that I can do it sometimes but not others. So both of us are really frustrated. It seems to come up many times a day that mommy has a old brain.

I would advise taking a moment to think about the message that you are sending here. Do you rejoice in the fact that he has abilities and interests that you do not have? Or do you feel ashamed/embarrassed/inadequate/stupid/old? How do you want him to feel when he encounters someone with knowledge and abilities that he does not have? I get that it's frustrating when he wants to play a specific game with you, but being down on yourself can't be helping things. If he's into memorizing and reciting, perhaps you could teach him something that you already know. Or maybe it's just time for him to play some games by himself. smile
Most Days, Tofu!
Hi no5no5,

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I would advise taking a moment to think about the message that you are sending here.

The message I was sending was to the original poster who queried if any other parents felt in over their head. But I think I may have been unclear -- to clarify, I was not complaining to my DS at any point, just to the anonymous web. I would imagine it's a fairly common type of in-over-head-feeling around here, but perhaps not.

Take care,

Polly
Polly - I get where you are coming from. My kids read and comprehend faster and understand things I don't get. It can make a Mom feel not fit for the job somedays. I keep repeating the message people have different learning abilities. One day, I was reading out loud a Math puzzle book and was having trouble understanding it. My DS9 grabbed it from me and said he knew what to do.
my daughter, three,also has a terrifying memory (in my mind) and can memorize long songs, involved stories, poems, line after line from movies, etc, but thank goodness she doesn't expect me to do it because my memory feels pretty limited lately with an almost two year old and a three year old. She also likes to play with Playdough for hours. She makes figurines and has them act out stories. I think it is great when my child sees my limitations because it makes her less intellectually dependent. Yes, she can go to mommy for answers, or we can go to a book or the Internet, but it is also a good lesson for her to see that SHE can be the one who knows more at times and get comfortable with that role because she is going to find herself in it many times in life. Now I am not saying I don't try to answer things and I am not asking her to be "grown up" at 3, just saying that you don't have to be good at that particular game with your son to be providing for his needs. Someimes not providing is providing, in the sense, for his understanding that others may not have the same interests or abilities... that said, I wish I had more energy. She is up at 5 am like a rocket asking questins literally dancing and singing and while I am up and interacting, I probably have a tenth of her energy right now...
Originally Posted by Polly
Hi no5no5,

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I would advise taking a moment to think about the message that you are sending here.

The message I was sending was to the original poster who queried if any other parents felt in over their head. But I think I may have been unclear -- to clarify, I was not complaining to my DS at any point, just to the anonymous web. I would imagine it's a fairly common type of in-over-head-feeling around here, but perhaps not.

Take care,

Polly

Okay. I though you were saying that you discussed with your son that you had an old brain, but maybe I misread. I think my post came across as pretty snarky, but I was really just trying to help. smile
Polly. I understand what you were saying and also have the toddler who has the crazy memorization. It is amazing to me how I can read a book once, maybe even twice and she can recite it verbatim. And I'm not talking short little books with one line per page but rather books meant for older kids with a couple of paragraphs per page. And we find ourselves playing similar games that you talk about but I have to confess that my DD doesn't sound as demanding as your DS and I am definitely thankful for that because I, too, would be in the same boat as you. It is only when I jump in with her game that I get corrected but she is quite content to just use her memorization to kick start some imaginary world that she participates in. (From reading the posts from other moms talking about the crazy memorization I have concluded that the over the top early imagination goes hand and hand.) I suspect that your son just has a different personality and is why he demands your input. In time he will understand it isn't that you don't want to play, just that you don't have the same skill. Big hugs! I know it can get frustrating because we are adults and SHOULD be able to keep up with toddler games but our little toddlers don't play the way they describe it in the books! wink
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