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Posted By: master of none School decisions - 06/12/09 02:35 PM
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Posted By: twomoose Re: School decisions - 06/12/09 03:24 PM
This sounds like a tough choice, MON. I guess I would also factor in cost of the private school as a "but"...maybe distance from home, convenience, etc.

I am a big advocate of an arts curriculum, so missing specials to me would be a big deal. My DD and DD are in private school, and I'm grateful that they don't have to take state testing, so that's a plus in my mind for the private school.

I guess I'm feeling conflicted about your decision, too - partly because I've been going through a decision process again for my kids. Each alternative situation has a "but" - something we would lose by going there, but gaining something else. Maybe get your DD's input on it?? Sorry I'm not much help...
Posted By: Val Re: School decisions - 06/12/09 03:41 PM
Hmm...from what you've described, you presented more than enough information to show the teacher that your daughter doesn't need to repeat 3rd grade math. Why is she hesitant? The reaction you described sounds pretty negative. I would be pretty dubious about what will happen with your DD unless you get it in writing from the principal. I wouldn't trust the teacher to do the 4th grade math otherwise.

This is a private school, and on top of the fact that you'll be paying them in large part for the advanced stuff, they might be facing recession-related enrollment issues like everyone else. This could work to your advantage. I suggest that you be completely honest with the principal. Tell him that after the meeting, you don't have a lot of confidence that the 3rd grade teacher will follow through on the 4th grade math and that DD will be forced to repeat 3rd grade math. You may wish to add words like "This seems problematic for us and we'd like to resolve this issue before making our decision about enrolling DD in your school." Always, always, nail down details before you give them a check!

An anecdote based on personal experience: my DS was supposed to get advanced math in 2nd grade. We had meetings, etc etc and the result was that they promised extra advanced work, but he still had to do the 2nd grade stuff. This was a bad idea and nothing ever really happened save a couple worksheets. Oh, and we had shown the teachers his completed 3rd grade math workbook. They did what you described: flipped through it but didn't really pay attention.

The teacher wasn't into the advanced stuff idea, and because he was doing 2nd grade math in class, she didn't have to because he was still doing math. This was a huge factor in our decision to leave that (private) school the next year.

I advise getting a formal commitment from the school saying that she will be exempt from 3rd grade math in favor of 4th grade math. Otherwise, you may be setting yourself up for some headaches.

Just my 2c!

Val, who must now take kitties for their annual checkups!
Posted By: Grinity Re: School decisions - 06/12/09 04:28 PM
oh MON! put her in the private school IF she can stay with the 4th grade ALL Day. Trust your gut and avoid Ms. 3Rd...period the end. Or stay with the public school and try for 5th grade math....Love and more love.....grinity
Posted By: Val Re: School decisions - 06/17/09 06:12 PM
What happened?

Val
Posted By: Dazed&Confuzed Re: School decisions - 06/17/09 08:13 PM
Good luck Master of none!
Posted By: incogneato Re: School decisions - 06/17/09 09:51 PM
Good luck!

This year we had a principal who said all the right things about the teacher, but the teacher was resistant hostile to the idea that DD is exceptionally gifted.

It was a very bad year, you can PM me if you want details.

Neato
Posted By: Val Re: School decisions - 06/18/09 02:38 AM
Umm. What are specials? Art class? They're obviously something good.

I hate when teachers force a child to redo something s/he's already done or figured out. And no amount of evidence to prove your case can convince some of them.

In this case, forcing your DD to miss something good (specials) and making her repeat third grade math before being allowed to take a more suitable class is like punishment for being intelligent.

Umm. Mathematics (especially in K-6) is supposed to build stepwise from one year to the next. So...forcing her to take 3rd grade math in parallel with 4th seems a bit silly in any event. If they don't believe she knows the material, why did they offer the grade 4 option at all?

Val
Posted By: Dazed&Confuzed Re: School decisions - 06/18/09 11:56 AM
I agree with Val!
Posted By: Dazed&Confuzed Re: School decisions - 06/18/09 01:15 PM
What they don't seem to grasp is that even if there is a hole, it will be quickly filled by these kids....it's never too late.

Yes, you have to look out for your child. And also stress that just b/c something doesn't work for one kid, it may work wonderfully for another. I did the questionnaires with my son in "Re-forming Gifted Education." The results were that he would not like to sit in the back of the class and work independently. He likes discussion and interaction w/ others at his level. He would likely just sit in the back and doodle on the page and daydream.
Posted By: Ellipses Re: School decisions - 06/18/09 01:24 PM
I feel that my daughter learned more from special than any other class in school. In fact,in MS,she is taking online courses so she can take more "electives".
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