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Posted By: _Angie_ Easier to advocate in a group or alone? - 11/24/15 11:35 PM
Our school has a group of K students coming in that are 98%+ in IQ, which qualifies them for some kind of (less standardized) early AIG services.

We're all just trying to figure it out. Trying to share information, etc, but we all seem on slightly different paths.

We seem to be looking for different solutions to the same problem, too. Not surprising, right?

Another mom is really looking to set up some differentiation in K via the teacher and I've kind of decided we don't REALLY need that this year. I'm trying to line up SSA in math for next year and prepare DS for testing for that. Another mom is going to volunteer to do some 1-1 AIG pull out stuff and get trained by the AIG teacher in the school to work with the kids on the program. The pull out stuff doesn't wow me as the core instruction at the wrong level is more my concern.

Meanwhile we're still waiting indefinitely on our IDEP that is required by the district, to describe services that were supposed to start in November of this year.

I don't even know what to do next. Lots of moving parts and at the end of the day I'm not sure there's much of a point to ask for much differentiation this year, since DS is being somewhat challenged by his current immersion environment.

So I'm wondering ... what are your experiences? Is it helpful to organize? Or just a distraction? Depends on the situation?

I don't want someone using my chips/placing demands on my behalf. So far I've been quiet because I'm going to fight for the SSA next year. But if I don't speak, someone may say they're representing me as well.
Posted By: AvoCado Re: Easier to advocate in a group or alone? - 11/24/15 11:44 PM
Good question!! I'm in a similar situation right now ...
Posted By: _Angie_ Re: Easier to advocate in a group or alone? - 11/25/15 12:16 AM
Good luck! Let me know if you figure it out first! smile
Posted By: GGG Re: Easier to advocate in a group or alone? - 11/25/15 12:20 AM
Wow. What state is that in? Our school district in CA doesn't care at all about incoming gifted Kindergarteners! I've been fighting for early K for our son for a year and half against a wave of opposition that says, "No one cares that your son is in the 99.5 percentile I.Q. and is almost at a 2nd grade level on his own, he'll be fine in Kindergarten, stop harassing us."

Since your on different paths, I'd say advocate alone.
Posted By: AvoCado Re: Easier to advocate in a group or alone? - 11/25/15 12:39 AM
Originally Posted by _Angie_
Good luck! Let me know if you figure it out first! smile

Ha, will do smile So far I'm going it alone but I do wonder if there is power in numbers. I can't quite get with the passive aggressive approach of the ringleader parent, I don't think they're very clear on what they want anyway, and it's all complicated by the fact the principal is leaving (favorite quote: "Gifted children can differentiate for themselves") so I'm just going to wait for the new (and hopefully improved) one before I get too involved
Posted By: DianaG Re: Easier to advocate in a group or alone? - 11/25/15 02:37 AM
I wouldn't want to advocate in a group unless I was sure that the other kids are actual peers. All of the kids who I thought were my DS's level actually aren't, and not even close honestly.

If the other kids are real peers, you have a bit more of a case, but I'd be very reluctant hearing everyone's different goals.
Posted By: _Angie_ Re: Easier to advocate in a group or alone? - 11/25/15 03:42 AM
Originally Posted by AvoCado
Originally Posted by _Angie_
Good luck! Let me know if you figure it out first! smile

Ha, will do smile So far I'm going it alone but I do wonder if there is power in numbers. I can't quite get with the passive aggressive approach of the ringleader parent, I don't think they're very clear on what they want anyway, and it's all complicated by the fact the principal is leaving (favorite quote: "Gifted children can differentiate for themselves") so I'm just going to wait for the new (and hopefully improved) one before I get too involved

Ewww (the quote). Yeah I don't want to be in charge of anything. But I don't want someone else to screw it up for me, either. wink And as far as I can tell there's no way to avoid the implication someone is speaking for all of us. To hang back and say nothing does feel like settling for someone else's ideas. I wonder if the administration will be like we already did BLAH for you, now you want more!?
Posted By: _Angie_ Re: Easier to advocate in a group or alone? - 11/25/15 03:44 AM
Originally Posted by DianaG
I wouldn't want to advocate in a group unless I was sure that the other kids are actual peers. All of the kids who I thought were my DS's level actually aren't, and not even close honestly.

If the other kids are real peers, you have a bit more of a case, but I'd be very reluctant hearing everyone's different goals.

My son has a twin in his class IQ wise. When I go in and volunteer for math centers I slip the two of them real problems on the side and they love it.

Which still isn't to say though that his mom and I have the same solutions in mind. At all. But yeah it would be even harder if the kids weren't at the same level. shocked
Posted By: _Angie_ Re: Easier to advocate in a group or alone? - 11/25/15 03:47 AM
Originally Posted by GGG
Wow. What state is that in? Our school district in CA doesn't care at all about incoming gifted Kindergarteners! I've been fighting for early K for our son for a year and half against a wave of opposition that says, "No one cares that your son is in the 99.5 percentile I.Q. and is almost at a 2nd grade level on his own, he'll be fine in Kindergarten, stop harassing us."

Since your on different paths, I'd say advocate alone.

I'm sorry. smirk Yes we have things that are very standardized which I'm grateful for. Early entry K is one in our state actually that is pretty easy as long as you jump through their hoops. What I like is that, for the most part, the process is documented and well defined. It feels as fair as it could, I guess.

Good luck...
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