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    Welcome and, yes, there are somethings there that I can definitely relate too! BTW, your DR. sounds a bit off... has he given you any other problems with your DD being advanced? Maybe just something to keep an eye on. We had some relatives say similar things and that's never fun.

    About talking to other moms, I've really learned good topics. I talk about DD's sleep habits (or total lack thereof!), her current interests, her crazy eating habits etc. It's not like her sight words come up in everyday conversation, you know what I mean?

    Somethings DD does are too obvious (she's always been very physically advanced). If people ask when she started walking, etc. I just tell them but make sure I say it very matter of factly so it does not sound like I'm bragging. Also, I might even through in something about some of DD's bright friends who were late walkers if I see that a nervous/anxious parent is asking.

    Most of my close friends know that it hasn't been all roses with DD. She's a WONDERFUL kid but definitely a handful so I haven't had to do with much envy.

    BTW, I came over here when DD was 6 months so I can relate to have a demanding infant. laugh

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    Originally Posted by jojo
    Deborah Ruf says that physical milestones are mostly irrelevant to giftedness

    I wonder about this. The more I read this board, the more clear it seems that there are lots of different ways to be gifted, and probably lots of different neurological causes. So if you average over all the kids, some things may wash out, statistically speaking.

    But I've seen enough comments here from parents whose gifted kids were physically advanced as babies, I do think there may be something to it. Maybe a subset of gifted kids have some kind of global neurological advancement (early myelination, maybe?) that causes both physical and cognitive advancement.

    DANG, I really want to do some research on this!

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    Hi Rachael C,

    It is too bad that we don't live in the same town and can go to the park together. Your little girl sounds delightful. I have an 9.5 year old boy who is a DYSer and a 8 month old daughter. I spent my entire pregnancy trying to tell myself that I should not measure my DD based on my son's accomplishments. I wanted to enjoy her and celebrate her individuality without ever conveying to her that she was somehow "less" than my son.

    Well, considering the fact that she is blowing through the developmental milestones much faster than my son did crazy , I don't think I have to worry. So if you want to share fun stories with someone who understands what you are going through, feel free to PM (personal message) me. It may not be as fun as going to a park or taking a stroller walk together, but we can hang out here. grin

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    Originally Posted by lulu
    Knowing that you have a gifted young child can be very lonely. I hope your child's father is on board, as very close family - for me my husband and the grandparents, were the only place I could speak my mind at that point. The good news is that this part of bringing up a gifted kid usually does get easier. In the end other people really have no choice but to see and accept what your kid is, although they may call you pushy for a while. In my experience other first time moms can be the worst for this due to all those insecurities a new parent has, but honestly, you can come across the very best of people this way too - there really are a few who genuinely will support you, and those friendships are amazing.
    Oh and welcome, vent away.

    You are soooo right! It's so lonely. I thought I would have a kid and get to join the exclusive mommy/ parent club and instead I'm still standing on the outskirts. My husband is wonderfully supportive and is willing to devote any resources on the planet to ensuring that she gets the enrichment/ stimulation she needs to stay sane (he hated school because he wasnt challenged). His parents watch our daughter while I work 3 days a week and they were the ones who first commented about her "condition" grin.

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    Originally Posted by Katelyn'sM om
    Your daughter sounds wonderful and very much like mine at that age, minus the potty training. smile I completely understand your frustration about being able to talk about your child. It was hard for me as well and I had to learn to just keep my mouth shut. When I did share I felt like I was being attacked or basically laughed at and told I had to be making things up. It is just easier not to share. The nice thing is now that DD is 3 1/2, I am able to share with some friends who also have gifted kids. Most of them are moderately gifted and are not as advanced as DD, but the moms recognize that and yet, they don't show jealousy. I just recently had a girls' night out with some of these moms and we talked about the kids of course, but nothing was trying to one up each other. It just feels good to be able to share what your child is doing, working on and know they too are finding their way with their own children. It wasn't anything I had when DD was a baby. My close friend of the time was competitive and childish and is no longer a friend of mine. Sometimes you have to know when to cut the strings and I finally did last summer. No longer am I dealing with the competitive conversations and having to watch what I shared so to spare her ... it just isn't worth it. This said, I still don't brag about DD or start a conversation about what she is doing. It is always the other moms encouraging me to share. I guess I have been burned too many times and just learned to keep my mouth shut, but am discovering there are moms out there that don't judge (at least to my face).

    I'm so sorry to hear you lost a friend over this wonderful thing! Unfortunately I feel like my everyday friends are slipping away, so at least I know I'm not alone here. My best friend does not believe in "gifted" and thinks I need to ignore it and treat her like a baby. I'm on the other side of the fence where, if she is unhappy or bored, I need to recognize her strengths in order to keep her enriched and occupied and to ensure that we get her the most appropriate education possible. Ugh...so we are at odds and seem very uncomfortable around each other now.

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    Originally Posted by newmom21C
    Welcome and, yes, there are somethings there that I can definitely relate too! BTW, your DR. sounds a bit off... has he given you any other problems with your DD being advanced? Maybe just something to keep an eye on. We had some relatives say similar things and that's never fun.

    About talking to other moms, I've really learned good topics. I talk about DD's sleep habits (or total lack thereof!), her current interests, her crazy eating habits etc. It's not like her sight words come up in everyday conversation, you know what I mean?

    Somethings DD does are too obvious (she's always been very physically advanced). If people ask when she started walking, etc. I just tell them but make sure I say it very matter of factly so it does not sound like I'm bragging. Also, I might even through in something about some of DD's bright friends who were late walkers if I see that a nervous/anxious parent is asking.

    Most of my close friends know that it hasn't been all roses with DD. She's a WONDERFUL kid but definitely a handful so I haven't had to do with much envy.

    BTW, I came over here when DD was 6 months so I can relate to have a demanding infant. laugh

    Actually, yes we have some problems with the Dr. We actually see him because he is ok with me not giving antibiotics or drugs for every little thing and supports whole body health and delayed vaccination, but he is terrible regarding ehr development. He never listens to what she is up to. He says things like (a few months ago), here put this cream on her stomach (for eczema) for a few months until she is mobile. Uh, she's been mobile for months and months! Or she was talking to me at her 9 month appt and his jaw dropped and he said "she talks?". Uh, yeah for over 3 months now...you know? I'm not sure where to find a dr that will fit ALL our needs.

    Thanks for the advice about how to respond to people. I always feel like people think she is some freak...but I guess if I respond matter of factly with no emotion, maybe people will begin to think its normal cool.

    I'm so glad to hear that you knew early on too. I do feel pretty confidant that unless she suddenly stops all cognitive development that I'm going to have a super smarty on my hands :-). What was your first inkling?

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    Originally Posted by MegMeg
    Originally Posted by jojo
    Deborah Ruf says that physical milestones are mostly irrelevant to giftedness

    I wonder about this. The more I read this board, the more clear it seems that there are lots of different ways to be gifted, and probably lots of different neurological causes. So if you average over all the kids, some things may wash out, statistically speaking.

    But I've seen enough comments here from parents whose gifted kids were physically advanced as babies, I do think there may be something to it. Maybe a subset of gifted kids have some kind of global neurological advancement (early myelination, maybe?) that causes both physical and cognitive advancement.

    DANG, I really want to do some research on this!

    You know, I'm glad you mentioned this. I didn't want to "ruffle feathers" on the first day smile but I don't tend to agree and there is other research to refute that as well (I know I should dig it up before opening my mouth...maybe another day I can get the links :)). My daughter has met every milestone, physical, social, verbal, etc more than 30% in advance of her age peers. How can it be that they are not related? Did you have the same experience?

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    Originally Posted by ebeth
    Hi Rachael C,

    It is too bad that we don't live in the same town and can go to the park together. Your little girl sounds delightful. I have an 9.5 year old boy who is a DYSer and a 8 month old daughter. I spent my entire pregnancy trying to tell myself that I should not measure my DD based on my son's accomplishments. I wanted to enjoy her and celebrate her individuality without ever conveying to her that she was somehow "less" than my son.

    Well, considering the fact that she is blowing through the developmental milestones much faster than my son did crazy , I don't think I have to worry. So if you want to share fun stories with someone who understands what you are going through, feel free to PM (personal message) me. It may not be as fun as going to a park or taking a stroller walk together, but we can hang out here. grin

    ebeth

    Oooh sounds like you surely have your hands full! How wonderful though that they will each have their own strengths! Yes, I wish we lived closer! Wouldn't it be nice to be able to talk freely about everything that is happening at break neck speed! I'd love to chat with you about everything..I'll send you a note. Thanks for the welcome!

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    Originally Posted by RachaelC
    Originally Posted by MegMeg
    Originally Posted by jojo
    Deborah Ruf says that physical milestones are mostly irrelevant to giftedness

    I wonder about this. The more I read this board, the more clear it seems that there are lots of different ways to be gifted, and probably lots of different neurological causes. So if you average over all the kids, some things may wash out, statistically speaking.

    But I've seen enough comments here from parents whose gifted kids were physically advanced as babies, I do think there may be something to it. Maybe a subset of gifted kids have some kind of global neurological advancement (early myelination, maybe?) that causes both physical and cognitive advancement.

    DANG, I really want to do some research on this!

    You know, I'm glad you mentioned this. I didn't want to "ruffle feathers" on the first day smile but I don't tend to agree and there is other research to refute that as well (I know I should dig it up before opening my mouth...maybe another day I can get the links :)). My daughter has met every milestone, physical, social, verbal, etc more than 30% in advance of her age peers. How can it be that they are not related? Did you have the same experience?

    I'm confused and it has been a little while since I read Ruf's book but she has clear markers in infancy that are related to gifted and are physical, such as early control of neck muscles. Maybe you are talking about early walking? My daughter was an average walker and I know a lot of members on this board had average or late walkers but many had early walkers. DD is a perfectionists and though she could theoretically walk by the time she was 11 months old; she wouldn't until she was sure she could master it which meant months of us holding her hand as she walked around until at 14 1/2 months she finally let go and did it on her own. She chose our anniversary to do it so we laugh and say it was her present to us. (Not the first anniversary present she gave us either. When she was 2 1/2 months she said elephant on our anniversary. A word she worked on for days as she focused on each syllable and on our anniversary she put it all together.)

    As for Ruf's book ... I think I need to pull it out and review the infancy sections of the levels because I remember a lot of clues for gifted.

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    re: physical milestones

    I've noticed from reading these boards and also people I know in person certain trends:

    early everything- basically these kids are early across the board, noticeably so (for the most part this is DD but she might also fit in the late talker category)

    early verbal, late physical- some kids seems to have extraordinary vocabularies (and maybe hit other non-physical milestones early) but wait for walking and then tend to pull it off perfectly

    late talkers- didn't start talking to 2+ but *usually* then started talking in full sentences, but might clearly have an amazing receptive vocab and show other signs of high intelligence (this was DH)

    bursts- could appear totally normal but all of a sudden show bursts of highly advanced skills (this was me)

    I wasn't including people that are 2E just because I haven't talked to as many (or the people I know weren't diagnosed). This is purely anecdotal but I wonder if these patterns are indicative of later learning styles? For instance, in the book Einstein Syndrome (at least the parts that I read) it seems that there are a lot of similarities among the late talkers. I wonder if any of these other subsets of gifted styles have been studied?

    I *think* that the reason that physical milestones are discounted is because there are a number of kids in the early verbal, late physical and the bursts categories.

    Just my conjectures, so take this at your own risk! laugh

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