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    came across this short article on number sense -

    http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/year-kids-algebra/story?id=22929698

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    Intrigued by this statement: "Interestingly, the Kibbe study found no difference in gender or in ages in the ability to "solve for the unknown quantity." That's a little surprising because many studies have shown that boys outperform girls in math after they enter school."

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    {shrug} That tallies with our observations.

    DD was quite readily doing this as early as 2-3yo, and most of her MG cohort that I knew then was doing it at 5-6yo.

    Being a scientist, (as are many of our friends) it seemed like a natural way of asking kids quantitative questions. While I realize that it still anecdotal, it has always seemed strange to me that almost EVERY kid I've known at 7yo could do this perfectly well... and yet... why isn't that considered "algebraic" by educators??

    Never made sense to me based on what I knew was so in my interactions with kids in this age group-- and by that I mean outreach, demonstrations, youth-activities, jr. science fairs, etc. etc. etc.


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    Because the last statement said: but it won't help with advanced algebra.

    I think the most pronounced feature of algebra is not just solve for x, it is also manipulating with abstract symbols. So it is really more about what you call algebra.

    Similarly, little children are also better with word problems than number sentences. I don't think this study says much more than we have already observed.

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    That's a little surprising because many studies have shown that boys outperform girls in math after they enter school."

    Poor reporting.

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    Conclusion. Our analysis shows that, for grades 2 to 11, the general population no longer shows a gender difference in math skills, consistent with the gender similarities hypothesis (19). There is evidence of slightly greater male variability in scores, although the causes remain unexplained.

    Baed on NCLB data from all 50 states representing over 7 million children.

    http://www.sciencemag.org/content/321/5888/494.full

    I believe boys do outscore girls on the math SAT still.

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    It may just be me but I find this study on 4-6 year olds (pre-k to first grade age-wise) pretty stupid - unless it is at least fifteen years old and therefore prior to the shift in elementary math education, which added elementary algebra and elementary geometry and elementary data analysis (graphs, tables, probabilities). As far back as a dozen years ago, my oldest DS had problems like 10 - ? = 3 in first grade (6 year olds), which progressed to 3p = 24 by 3rd grade. At that time, I refer to these problems as kiddie algebra because the term elementary algebra wasn't common in the lexicon yet.

    Of course, the title itself is meant to spark interest but rather misleading. As another poster pointed out, it does come down to how you define "Algebra". Being able to differentiate between a much large quantity (12) and a much smaller quantity (4) to conclude 12 or 4 is a far cry from solving systems of linear equations and quadratic equations requried in "real" first-year Algebra curriculum. While the concept of solving for an unknown is part and parcel of Algebra, so are arithmetic concepts and both are routinely covered in first-grade curriculum aimed at 6 year-olds. I suppose this is no different from the number of lay people who equal a math degreed person with facility with arithmetic skills.


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