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    Originally Posted by master of none
    I don't know. I don't think self esteem should have anything to do with how smart you think you are. Anytime one of my kids has remarked they were smarter than...I said "so what? I am taller than...." It only happened when they were under 5 though.

    As time goes on, I do explain to them that not everybody is as smart as they are, as hard a worker, as fast a runner, as stable a family, as......, and they need to expect that in their interactions. I try to teach them to support other people. It's through recognizing the value in others, offering help, and support for others to be themselves, that I think our kids develop self esteem.

    Comparisons of characteristics does not IMO indicate anything about self esteem, except perhaps a fragile self that could use a little support.

    YES! This is such a nice point to make. An individual has value on his/her own merits, and my own internal means of measuring my OWN self-worth should have little to do with how I determine the worth of others.

    This seems (to me, as a parent to a highly pro-social/empathetic child) to be the crux of how kind and empathetic people see the world. smile


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    Originally Posted by Lovemydd
    No advice to offer as I have a kid (DD3.5) who comes across as a complete goof ball in front of strangers and even company we know. Unless anyone asked her something that would clearly indicate that she knows way more than her age peers, you would meet a kid who is jumping off couches, running around in circles shouting like a maniac or telling poop jokes. smile

    smile yup. This is why I think the school thinks I am crazy

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    DS 7 seems to attract the most comments in elevators or waiting for things when people overhear our conversations - it used to be about the books he was reading but now the comments are all about his vocabulary and the "big words" DS is using (insert overly cutsey parent voice here). I have never pushed DS to respond to strangers beyond what is polite, although sometimes he is just silent in response to their questions. And I am fine with that because its clear he is responding to some vibe from the adult and I want to encourage that, I want him to trust his gut that some nice looking people may not be nice and to not engage.

    I had trouble with the he is so bright comments, so I would say yes or thank you and leave it at that. At about 4, DS would say, yes and I read a lot too. Or something like that. I let it go. The I am so smart comments wasn't a problem until he used it with kids when meeting new ones - and then we had to have conversations about how it wasn't necessary to lead with, how it then makes the kids say prove it and you have to act like a trained duck, and that its just rude and braggy.

    But then again, 3-5 is also the age when the really bright kid stands out and is remarked upon, and I started changing my comments with other parents to emphasize what DS wasn't doing in order to fit in with the other parents - until I realized DS was listening. So I changed my tune to talk about accomplishments when asked, but to not elaborate unless encouraged by the strength of the relationship, and I feel this works well for settings like in elevators - simple thank you suffices. If DS wants to chat he will, if he doesn't that is fine with me.

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    I'm normally so grateful dd gets a comment on her brains instead of her looks (blonde curly hair, blue eyes, crazy fun mishmash style of dressing), that I haven't worried about this. I suppose if it comes up a lot I'd go with what I say about the looks compliments--that we say thank you, and even better, say something nice back. Not necessarily about looks/brains but something nice. Because I had a hard time learning to take a compliment and so I've tried to teach her gracefully.

    Eta-- now that DS is getting more comments about his talking/counting, and not just physical stuff, we're back to me awkwardly modeling for dd. Hopefully she'll do better than I! Why not, she's smarter wink

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    DS8 now emphatically states that "kids are smarter than adults!" He insists that he's smarter than his (non-gifted) Dad.

    This makes me happy, actually, given the fact that ADHD is often accompanied by low self esteem. Not a problem with that kid smile

    Believing in his own abilities is great, but not believing in his parents' abilities... not so much. An 8yo who is convinced his parents aren't very bright is likely to have anxiety issues if he thinks they're not capable of making good decisions that keep him safe and well cared for. He may perceive problems and be unable to be convinced when you tell him there's no reason to worry. So in your place, I wouldn't hold back from showing off a little.

    "Parent" ...singular. He raves about how smart his mommy is wink

    I agree with you in general, although the two anxiety counselors he's seen (in our search for the right diagnostic direction, prior to arriving at ADHD) both say they see no anxiety in him (as in, nothing clinical - most people have some anxiety at times).

    (Btw, I do correct him - I remind him that adults have wisdom and fully developed brains)

    I think what's happening is that he knows he's clever, and when when you combine that with hearing adults say things like "kids are like sponges!" ...he's led to the conclusion that kids' brains are more efficient.

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    Originally Posted by CCN
    "Parent" ...singular. He raves about how smart his mommy is wink

    LOL... rock on!

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    Today in the car on the way to Kindergarten, DS was playing a Leapster game that involves division. I don't recall which one it is...he's had at least twenty of those since he's been three.

    He was commenting on how he knows division now and how he doesn't like the rounding of five digit numbers his teacher is giving him. (Third grade worksheets) I told him to ask her to make up some problems for him to do instead of the rounding.

    At school, he's in the hall hanging up his backpack and jacket with another classmate he's known since preschool. He tells her he knows division now. She was talking over him (thankfully) and I called him aside and told him not to talk about division to his classmates; only to his teacher.

    He looked like I had told him he did something wrong. I felt really awful about it.

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    When my son answers that he's going to be in two different grades next year, people will ask, "Why?". He will answer, "Because I'm smart and I'm good at science." He sees this as being factual and refuses to alter the words. After a few discussions about how he feels when he hears the same words coming from a friend who is good at bike riding or swimming, my son has modified his response. He will start with the same phrase and then will tack on, "Everybody is smart and good at something. This is what I'm good at. But I'm not very good at other things like..."

    I really like this reply because it doesn't diminish his strengths but it also shows that he is aware that others have talents and he does have weaknesses. So far, the extended response has been met with positive vibes.

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    It is a sad sad world when you can't boast about your success. Of if you do, you have to qualify them.

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    Normally the adults don't say anything directly to my son, usually directed to me and depending who it is, I try to downplay it (completer stranger) or own up to it (like the dentist) LOL I usually hear "how old is he?" I tell them and they say "wow he is really smart" or "I thought he was older" - that kind of thing.

    I can't remember if he has ever responded about being "smart". I do know that he has no sense of privacy or boundaries because he would probably tell a stranger my social security number if he knew it. He always tells kids on the playground his name and age, his sister's name and age and sometimes tells people my name and my husband's name and how old we are, what city we live in... smirk


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