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    #135579 08/13/12 06:36 AM
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    http://economics.mit.edu/files/7325
    Heterogeneity in High Math Achievement Across Schools: Evidence
    from the American Mathematics Competitions
    by Glenn Ellison, Ashley Swanson - #18277 (ED)

    Abstract:

    This paper explores differences in the frequency with which students
    from different schools reach high levels of math achievement. Data
    from the American Mathematics Competitions is used to produce counts
    of high-scoring students from more than two thousand public,
    coeducational, non-magnet, non-charter U.S. high schools.
    High-achieving students are found to be very far from evenly
    distributed. There are strong demographic predictors of high
    achievement.There are also large differences among seemingly similar
    schools. The unobserved heterogeneity across schools includes a
    thick tail of schools that produce many more high-achieving students
    than the average school. Gender-related differences and other
    breakdowns are also discussed.

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    From the paper:

    Our main qualitative findings are that many schools produce high-achieving students at much less than the average rate and that there is a strikingly thick tail of extremely successful schools. For example, we estimate that about 39% of schools produce high-scoring students at less than one-half of the average rate for schools with similar characteristics, and that 2% of schools produce high-scoring students at more than five times the average rate. We also provide estimates of the heterogeneity of school e ects relevant to subpopulations,
    including the likelihood of producing high-achieving female students. Here, the estimates suggest that many schools are extremely unlikely to produce high-achieving girls."

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    From a policy perspective, our results suggest that the high-achieving math students we see today in U.S. high schools may be just a small fraction of the number of students who had the potential to reach such levels. This should probably not be surprising. For example, we know that the U.S. is far behind many other countries in the fraction of students who achieve very high scores on tests used in cross-country comparisons. But our finding that there is substantial variation across schools beyond the variation related to demographics could be interpreted as a hopeful one. Substantially increasing the number of high-achieving students nationwide may not be all that hard given that are already many schools that appear to produce high-achieving students at much more than the average
    rate for schools with similar demographics. And the existence of upper-tail schools that are much, much more successful than average suggests that there might be programs that could be emulated to produce much larger improvements.

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    Originally Posted by Heterogeneity in High Math Achievement Across Schools
    We suggest that a potential explanation is that almost all schools see it as their responsibility to provide English and math courses that cover material necessary to do well on the SATs, whereas there is much less uniformity in whether schools encourage gifted students to develop more advanced problem solving skills and reach the higher level of mastery of high school mathematics needed to do well on the AMC.

    So, as many here have experienced, even a school that is good for smart kids may not be good for really, really smart kids.

    Thanks for sharing. I'll be reading this thoroughly when I have the time.

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    Here is another paper by the same authors that focuses more exclusively on the gender gap (http://economics.mit.edu/files/7598). I would actually read it first, as it is the more accessible of the two.



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