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    Originally Posted by Polly
    When symptoms are iffy then there may be better ways to spend effort than in psychologists' offices.


    This is where it becomes important. Whether the diagnosis is correct or not, the difference in the long run is what you do about the symptoms that got you there in the first place.


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    Originally Posted by melmichigan
    Whether the diagnosis is correct or not, the difference in the long run is what you do about the symptoms that got you there in the first place.

    YES! There are a lot of kids getting Asperger's diagnoses and then getting no real help. And, kids not getting diagnoses and then getting no real help. It is the lack of real help that's the problem. So, I say take whatever part of the ASD diagnosis that makes sense and helps you understand the paths you need to get your child help with the stuff that he struggles wtih.

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    Originally Posted by melmichigan
    Whether the diagnosis is correct or not, the difference in the long run is what you do about the symptoms that got you there in the first place.

    Right on!

    We have found the dx useful in the pragmatic sense of getting help lined up. It's much harder to do that without the dx.

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    Some great points here. The most important thing for a child who is having serious social problems, gifted or not, is getting help and treatment from knowledgeable, loving professionals and understanding from family and friends. I remember when my DS6 was 2, first getting him formally diagnosed, and hearing the diagnostician say that our boy would probably "diverge" behaviorally over time until he would no longer be diagnosable. That was tremendously exciting and a relief for me, for several months.

    I realize now that the more important thing he told us was that we were doing everything right in terms of interventions for him...my wife had quickly figured out that if he needed help, it didn't matter what the exact diagnosis was, since the same therapies were going to help him, no matter what we called it. It was also easier because we'd figured out about his PG about 3 months before we started to accept the ASD--he'd started reading at 21 months.

    In the end, your kid is just YOUR KID. One of the best things I think we've done for our DS6 is that we recognize every one of his traits--from his incredible memory, his love of puns, his affectionate nature, his indomitable stubbornness, his mercurial temper, hi irrepressible silliness--as being traits that came down the genetic line through us. This is unquestionably our boy, and as I tell him regularly, if I could scour the earth and examine every child in it down to the wet behind their ears, in the end, I would choose HIM, because I couldn't be prouder of him. He is a reflection of my deepest hopes, my deepest worries, and my wildest dreams.

    As to the "label" of AS or ASD, it can be a tremendous ally, because it should qualify your child for invaluable therapies that otherwise might not sometimes be available. There's a great book worth reading called "Unstrange Minds", which is about demystifying autism, the stereotypes, and the myths (such as that there is an "epidemic" of it). One of the professionals in it makes a comment that stuck with me: "I'll call a kid a zebra if it will get him treatment."

    It doesn't matter whether he's white with black stripes, or black with white stripes. In the end, your kid is just your kid. You have to just do your homework, advocate, and love, love, love.

    We have profoundly gifted kids. "Different Minds", also an excellent book, makes another key point -- PG kids with AS are DIFFERENT from PG kids without AS, and they're DIFFERENT from AS kids who aren't PG. They're a whole other variety of zebra, and the labels are much more slippery. But we're very lucky parents, and our road is much easier than some.

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    Eric NJB,

    You said everything I wanted to, perfectly.

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    Ditto, very well put Eric NJB!!!

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    Thanks. I'm glad to have found this forum. It's a reminder of how valuable our experience can be for the next parent who's struggling. A friend from high school reached out to me a couple of years back, because she'd read my status updates on Facebook and wanted to talk about her fears about her younger son. Turns out he had a very similar profile to our (now) DS6, so we recommended the phenomenal Therapeutic Nursery at the JCC on the Palisades. She enrolled him for a year, which was a strong stand to take--it requires half-day participation from a parent or caregiver along with the child, so the parents are being taught along with the children--and every time we interact she thanks me for "changing her son's life".

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    For anyone interested in more detail, Deirdre Lovecky, author of "Different Minds", encapsulates some of the distinctions about being gifted with AS nicely in this article:

    http://www.grcne.com/giftedAsperger.html

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