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Well said, Kriston and Kcab
Our library offers purchase request as well. So far, the library has purchased every book we have requested.
It's a great service when offered.
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Judging LOG strictly (or even to a great extent) by school placement doesn't make any more sense to me than judging strictly by IQ score. Intelligence is more complicated than either of those would indicate. Motivation plays a big role.
Then, too, even if my DS is ready for college at 10 or 12 or even 14, he's not going! Frankly, I'M not ready for that! He'd take online college courses, have a private tutor, travel...but I'm NOT going to send him away to college at that age.
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So I guess my question to you, Wren, would be why does the difference between EG and PG matter to you at this point in your DD's development? Does it change the way you're going to raise her or educate her if she's "only" HG or EG and not PG? Is this just curiosity or do you have a personal stake in the question? I totally agree, Kriston. We are still learning about DS's abilities, but I just do not see college at 12. He may be ready for some college material at that age. I don't think many parents choose that route unless their child absolutely needed college at that age to be happy and healthy. Honestly, I'd keep my child at grade level the whole way through if I could find a way to do it such that he'd be challenged, engaged, and socially happy the entire way. Life is not a race. Wren - also looking forward to hearing what you have to say about your interest in this!
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Hey, bon-bon hog! You passing those around, or what! (Word to the wise: never stand between me and chocolate!) And some of my favorite people are lazy. Like me, for example. 
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LOL! I like the way you think, kcab!
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Exactly, Kriston and kcab, intelligence is one thing and energy level is another. I always wondered what I would have managed to accomplish had I not needed 9 hours of sleep a night.
My former boss loved to quote a comic who said, "I thought about trying to live up to my potential. But then I realized that it would seriously cut into my sittin' 'round time!" That sums me up. If DH and I couldn't spend Sunday afternoons drinking tea and making up bad puns, I'm not sure as life would be worth living.
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Ooh, bad puns! acs, I knew I liked you for a reason.
Bad puns make life worth living!
Well, along with chocolate...
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That sums me up. If DH and I couldn't spend Sunday afternoons drinking tea and making up bad puns, I'm not sure as life would be worth living. Ha - that's close to summing up our afternoon! Excuse me .. I need more tea and pass me a thin mint while you're at it.
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^^ we definitely need a cafe forum of some kind for discussions like above :-)
Moderators - when will one come?
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I agree with many of the points made in this thread. FWIW, I have a child who was tested with the old LM and he came out well over 200. He hit seven ceilings on the WISC. His sibs are in the same ballpark, though they have only been tested with more conventional IQ tests.
My kids do not have the linear grade level mindset that they must do a, then b, then c. Of course some things happen this way- you have to walk before you can run. But my kids don't feel pressured to get through grade levels and into college. I do anticipate that each will attend college at some point, but I'm not sure that I understand the OP's questions. I guess I see smart as who you are and not what you do. Does that make sense?
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Judging LOG strictly (or even to a great extent) by school placement doesn't make any more sense to me than judging strictly by IQ score. Intelligence is more complicated than either of those would indicate. Motivation plays a big role.
Then, too, even if my DS is ready for college at 10 or 12 or even 14, he's not going! Frankly, I'M not ready for that! He'd take online college courses, have a private tutor, travel...but I'm NOT going to send him away to college at that age.
I think the majority of parents feel that way. I'd bet most PG kids feel that way, even. And there are so many things kids can do and learn between 10 and grad school that there's just no reason for them to go that route if it's not the ideal solution for them.
They need to learn, yes. But life is not a race with the one out of grad school fastest getting the prize. And for most of these "tail" kids, grad school at 12 is not something they need. If they do, more power to them, naturally! But most don't need that. Even the PG kids. Exactly. Just because one could do something doesn't mean that he has to or that is a good choice. I think this article about Terence Tao and the educational decisions his parents made for him is a very good example. I hope everybody can agree that he is PG. http://www.davidsongifted.org/db/Articles_id_10116.aspxPlease go ahead and read what Billy Tao has to say. There is no need for him to rush ahead now. If he were to enter full-time now, just for the sake of being the youngest child to graduate, or indeed for the sake of doing anything 'first,' that would simply be a stunt. Much more important is the opportunity to consolidate his education, to build a broader base.
.... As for us. I think it's impossible to even guess where my child can be at 10 or 12 or 14. One of the most important gt/school lessons I learned this is year is One year at a time and even that could probably read a few months at a time. I do not know where DS5 will be. I think that he will be ready for algebra at 7 or 8, but that's as far as I can go. As for DS3, yes he is gifted. Yes, he is probably level 4, but I am nowhere close to be able to even guess where he could be at the age of 10 or 12. I think it would be laughable to even try.
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