Thank you, all good advice...And a big thanks for replying so quickly smile I'm seriously at tears with this. Husband and I seem to always be talking with DS about making good choices etc...etc...etc...Half the time it just seems like he's looking through us. It's SO frustrating when we know what he is capable of!!! Great idea about bringing in the EPGY smile I had another big chat with DS today, and he told me that when the problems are too easy for him that he just gets lost in his doodling and forgets where he is on the test, forgets to do problems, sigh. He seriously is "at risk" right now for 4th grade math when at home he's doing algebra!!! I feel like I've tried everything...rewards, consequences, always changing everything from a negative to a positive, "I know you'll do better next time....What can be done better next time"....On and on and on with no consistent results. Another thing is that lately I'm getting no support on this situation from husband. He doesn't agree that DS needs to be challenged, because DS isn't proving to anybody that he even knows the basics. Husband is so over all of it that he wants to take away EPGY, which results in huge tears from DS...Drama, drama, drama!!! Ten minutes ago, DS just pulled a "I just don't test well" comment on me ...I know he got that line from reading Calvin and Hobbes! Oh well, thanks for all of the support. I really do appreciate it smile