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Posted By: JonahSinick Can an online peer group substitute? - 03/21/14 04:05 AM
The gifted population is thinly distributed around the world. As a result, many gifted children have trouble finding in-person peers who share their intellectual interests.

For some gifted children this is a serious problem, resulting in them feeling very isolated, and even suffering from depression. Other gifted children are socially well adjusted and are happy to interact with their peers around non-intellectual interests, but still wish that they had people with whom to talk about their intellectual interests.

Nowadays people with unusual interests are sometimes able to find others who share them online even when they don't find them in person. For example, some research mathematicians who are interested in socializing around math congregate around MathOverflow.

It's often advised that children under the age 13 don't interact with strangers online, but I also know that there are a few communities like IGGY designed for gifted children. Some children who are interested in math interact on Art of Problem Solving is

How far do such communities go toward meeting gifted children's social needs? How far could they go? Is there room for improvement?
Posted By: JonLaw Re: Can an online peer group substitute? - 03/21/14 12:03 PM

No, an online peer group will not substitute.

Posted By: binip Re: Can an online peer group substitute? - 03/21/14 10:37 PM
I do not believe that an online peer group is a substitute for an in-person peer group.

From online dating first meets to Reddit meet-ups, I cannot think of a single time that online socialization came close to real socialization, and I love the Internet. I met my partner online.

However great online socialization is, it's very one-dimensional compared to personal human interaction.
Posted By: HowlerKarma Re: Can an online peer group substitute? - 03/22/14 02:08 AM
Nope-- not the same. I wish.

On the other hand, I do also believe that SOME specialty online communities that serve as a support network for those who lives life as misunderstood minorities within their "real" lives-- that an online community can be a very valuable tool in coping.

I run one that functions that way-- I've known some of those parents since 2000. I've met some of them in person, and I consider one of them a close friend, even. They are ALL exactly who they present as in that forum. But that's a unique situation, much like this forum is-- everyone is there because of a shared life-challenge, and it's one that places us under a lot of stress and is isolating IRL.

Posted By: JonahSinick Re: Can an online peer group substitute? - 03/22/14 02:40 AM
I personally have made several very close friends online, but I know that my experience is atypical.
Posted By: puffin Re: Can an online peer group substitute? - 03/22/14 09:42 AM
I would have a problem if people changed their names randomly too. I guess it isn't a good substitute but it would be better than nothing maybe.
Posted By: ColinsMum Re: Can an online peer group substitute? - 03/22/14 11:18 AM
Most of my closest friends are people I met online - and several of my closest IRL friends are people I got close to through emailing them when we were apart. I find it easier to open up in text than in speech.

I don't think it would work for my DS yet, though. Typing is too hard for him as yet.
I think it's important to have some IRL friends, but that online friends are a good stand-in too.

When I first had my son, I was living far away from any support network. I didn't have any friends or family around. My online moms' groups saved me from total insanity.

Like ColinsMum, I have a lot of close friends that I met online. Some I met online, then in person, and now we keep in touch online. Some online friends I've never met in person.

When it comes to our kids, though, I think of this more as something to be done in the teenage years. For example, a group met through an online course; or the friends they meet at a summer camp program far from home.
Posted By: aquinas Re: Can an online peer group substitute? - 03/22/14 04:01 PM
I've made some lovely friends here and have sustained friendships over long distances online. I think it depends on the person's willingness and ability to be open through unconventional means of communication.
Posted By: Dude Re: Can an online peer group substitute? - 03/22/14 06:29 PM
What works for adults doesn't necessarily work for kids, because they just don't have the same level of social skills to make it work. And online communities of adults often melt down in spectacular fashion.
Posted By: HowlerKarma Re: Can an online peer group substitute? - 03/22/14 06:53 PM
Yes-- often on a regular annual cycle, in fact.

Posted By: JonLaw Re: Can an online peer group substitute? - 03/22/14 08:00 PM
If you don't actually meet in person, online groups will fail to meet your social needs.

I'm not sure exactly what drives online group meltdowns, but part of it is the lack of information that is conveyed in text vs. in-person.
Posted By: Val Re: Can an online peer group substitute? - 03/22/14 09:47 PM
I hope we aren't due for a meltdown. I really like this group.
Posted By: intparent Re: Can an online peer group substitute? - 03/22/14 11:03 PM
It isn't a complete substitute, but it can be a big help. My youngest D was pretty miserable in middle school -- PG, and really did not know anyone like herself. She was invited to join the Cogito online group as a result of SAT talent search test scores, and it was HUGE for her. She really bonded with a handful of kids on that site, and it helped her so much to "meet" people like herself. Eventually she met other kids at Davidson THINK, and the Cogito fervor cooled. But I was definitely grateful for the connection and her feeling that there really were other people like her out there. She is still Facebook friends with some of those Cogito kids, and one goes to a college in the consortium with her current school.
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