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    �Hola Cathy A!

    Muchas gracias por tu bienvenida.
    Has entendido perfectamente mi pregunta. A m� me ocurre lo mismo que a ti, no hablo ingl�s pero puedo leer un poco, muy poco, de ingl�s.

    Ya sab�is que mi hijo tiene 9 a�os y cursa 6� de educaci�n primaria. Le aceleraron de 3� a 5� curso.
    Este a�o en la escuela p�blica le dan contenidos de un curso superior, es decir de 1� de educaci�n secundaria. Tambi�n le han dado una beca, por lo que estudia ingl�s en una academia privada con profesores ingleses.

    En Espa�a la educaci�n primaria consta de 6 cursos y la educaci�n secundaria de 4. Las dos son obligatorias. Luego el bachiller son 2 cursos m�s. Despu�s de todo esto y de un examen ya puede estudiar en la Universidad. �Esto es tambi�n as� en US?

    Me gustar�a saber algunas cosas m�s. Estos colegios para superdotados, �c�mo funcionan? �tienen el mismo n�mero de cursos que las escuelas normales?

    Las leyes espa�olas dicen que estos ni�os deben ser identificados y atendidos en la escuela. Sin embargo, la mayor�a de los ni�os superdotados se aburren en la escuela, en muchas ocasiones no saben ni quieren darles una educaci�n acorde a sus capacidades. A�n peor, a muchos ni�os no se les detecta. Pronto esos ni�os comienzan a obtener malas calificaciones e incluso muchos abandonan los estudios �esto tambi�n ocurre ah�?

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    The situation is very similar here. Around age 5, children start Kindergarten (K), which is not required in every state. Grades 1-6 (elementary school) are required, followed by junior high school (grades 7,8) and high school (grades 9,10,11,12). After that, students can choose a 2-year (Associate's degree) or 4-year college program (Bachelor's degree). A few continue with graduate school (2-yrs for Master's degree, 4+ years for Doctoral degree) or professional school such as medical or law school.

    In many states, students can be homeschooled for all or part of their early education which can be a good alternative for gifted children.

    Gifted students here have similar problems with poor identification, lack of challenge, and underachievement.

    Is your son happy with his school situation?

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    Mi hijo durante a�os se aburri� en la escuela. Sin embargo, y por fortuna nunca bajaron sus calificaciones.
    En casa y desde que era muy peque�o, siempre hemos intentado motivarlo.

    Ahora, �l est� m�s feliz. La aceleraci�n a un curso superior y sus actividades fuera de la escuela le hacen sentirse mejor.

    Es triste que a nuestros hijos no se les den los est�mulos necesarios para su total y pleno desarrollo.

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    It is frustrating. My son (age 5 1/2) has also been accelerated (from K to 2nd grade) which has helped a lot this year. He is still not getting math and reading at his level at school, but it is closer. He is also doing sports after school--swimming and taekwondo--which keep him busy.

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    Cathy, me alegro que a tu hijo tambi�n lo hayan acelerado. Esto seguro le ayudar� a sentirse un poco mejor.
    �Tu hijo va a una escuela para superdotados?

    Aqu�, los test de inteligencia las realizan los psic�logos y pedagogos que trabajan para el gobierno, en la escuela. Los diagn�sticos de superdotaci�n hechos por centros privados no son v�lidos, �ocurre esto ah�?. �Qui�n hace los test a los ni�os en US?. �Qu� test son los m�s utilizados para diagnosticar a los ni�os superdotados?

    Aqu�, los test de inteligencia s�lo los realizan a los ni�os que creen necesarios. A veces, es dif�cil conseguir que le realicen las pruebas de inteligencia. No quieren trabajar mucho los profesionales de aqu�. �Ah�, le hacen los test a todos los ni�os de la escuela o solamente a aquellos que piensan que pueden ser superdotados?.

    Un saludo

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    Originally Posted by Babelfish translation
    Cathy, I am glad that to your son they have accelerated also it. This insurance will help him to feel a little better. Your superequipped son goes to a school for? Here, the intelligence test realises the psychologists and educators that work for the government, in the school. The diagnoses of supergrant done by private centers are not valid, it happens this there. Who makes the test to the children in U.S. What test is used to diagnose the superequipped children? Here, the intelligence test only realises the children who create necessary. Sometimes, it is difficult to obtain that they realise the intelligence tests to him. They do not want to work the professionals of here much. There, they only do the test to him to all the children of the school or to which they think that they can be superequipped.

    My son attends a regular public school, not a school for the gifted. Our school has no gifted program until 4th grade. They do not test the children until 3rd grade, then they use CogAT (a group ability test) to identify gifted students. Our school also does not accept private test results, although some schools in other states do. In the U.S. there is a lot of variation when it comes to gifted programs. Some states have none at all. Rules for testing and identification vary from state to state. Parents here often have difficulty obtaining services for their gifted children. I wish I could tell you that the grass is greener here crazy

    We paid for private intelligence testing (WPPSI-III) for our son which helped us advocate for acceleration. His acceleration is not considered part of the gifted program. That doesn't make much sense, but that's how they do things!


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