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Does anyone know which subtests make up the "Total Reading" that DYS wants to see on the WIAT III?

My son (14 yrs. 0mos) just finished an LD assessment that confirmed very high verbal reasoning abilities and reading achievement (as well as significant deficits elsewhere), but I don't think they administered enough of the WIAT III subtests for us to use the scores for the achievement portion of the DYS application. I didn't see a score for a WIAT III "Total Reading" listed in the report.

The subtest scores from the report were:

Reading Comprehension 153
Mathematics Composite 89
Sentence Composition 85
Essay Composition 76
Oral Reading Fluency 97
Oral Reading Accuracy 87
Oral Reading Rate 98
Mathematics Fluency 68
Reading Comprehension/Fluency 129

I don't know how DYS feels about kids with High IQ and LD's, so I don't know if I am wasting my time even contemplating applying, but I'd still like to know which subtests they require.

The only other real achievement testing we have is the ACT that he took in 7th grade without any accommodations for his LDs, and those scores don't qualify him - 31 Reading, 23 Science, 12 Math, 21 English, and 22 composite.

IQ score history looks like this:

SB-IV (age 5yrs. 2 mos)

Verbal Reasoning SAS 139
Vocabulary 68 (136)
Comprehension 68 (136)
Absurdities 65 (130)

Abstract/visual Reasoning SAS 78
Pattern Analysis 41 (82)
Copying 40 (80)

Quantitative Reasoning SAS 102
Quantitative 51 (102)

Short-term Memory SAS 129
Bead Memory 49 (98)
Memory for Sentences 76 (152)

Test composite 114

Factor scores:
Verbal Comprehension 151
Nonverbal Reasoning/
Abstract Visualization 89

Psychologist noted that she believed the Verbal Comprehension Factor score was the most accurate estimate of his abilities, due to his obvious difficulties with motor tasks and visual-motor integration (VMI was at the 6th percentile).

WISC -IV (Age 13yrs 8 mos.)

VCI 134

Similarities 16
Vocabulary 19
Comprehension 12

PRI 100

Block Design 9
Picture Concepts 11
Matrix reasoning 10

WMI 110

Digit Span 12
Letter-number
sequencing 12

Processing speed 68

Coding 2
Symbol search 6

Test administrator, who was certified by school district to give the test but not a licensed psychologist, found no evidence that he was gifted or LD with these scores, BTW, which led us to get an IEE, which found:

RIAS (age 14yrs 0mos.)

Verbal Intelligence Index 147
Guess What 75
Verbal Reasoning 77

Non-verbal Intelligence 124
odd item out 63
what's missing 62

Composite memory index 132
Verbal memory 82
Nonverbal memory 52

Composite intelligence index 140

I'm not a licensed psychologist, but it does make me wonder what kind of scores the tester would expect from a 2E kid. Maybe the tester doesn't expect to 2E kids to exist. I hope the tide is turning on this common misconception, but I wish it would turn faster.

Send in the application - he is certianly close enough to make the effort worthwile (as long as you don't get hung up in being perfectionistic about filling it out, like I did - it took me 6 months. When I asked, the DYS person said that it took some parents 2 years to fill out the forms!)

Let the chips fall!
It's good practice for us, at least.
Grinity

Thanks so much for the feedback. I didn't want to ask anyone to put in a lot of time and effort writing a recommendation if it was a hopeless endeavor. We'll get on the paperwork ASAP.

I had one of the psychs who tested dd10 tell me that it was impossible to have a LD if you weren't below avg.

Good luck with your ap. I'd be curious to know if he gets in b/c I have one child with a similar, but a bit less erratic, profile.

Um, this person may have been "certified" but was apparently not qualified to interpret your son's pattern of scores, which are classic 2E.