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    #78824 06/23/10 02:00 PM
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    I know that I am a twice-exceptional person, but I just can't figure out what I have. I score low on IQ tests (well, at least average) yet on achievement tests, I score around 99. I have a sort of paradox within myself that I can't get things that others understand, yet nobody understands what I understand. I am not suffering from any ASD, but I have a hard time with social situations in the area of talking to people. I have frequent anxiety attacks, and I lack any sort of athletic ability. I also have a hard time with details and I have a poor memory. I've been tested for ADHD, Asperger's, and occasionally on the internet, Bipolar I Disorder. My doctor even thought that I had the adult form of ADHD, but said that didn't make any sense. Please diagnose me before it's too late!

    Violet #78828 06/23/10 04:06 PM
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    I am pretty sure asking for a diagnosis here is not a super fantastic idea, cause mostly we just play psychologists on 'tv'...that said, if I were you I'd start by reading up on giftedness, posting more details here, people might have ideas for you. (I imagine the 'diagnose me' request was somewhat tongue-in-cheek).
    What sorts of things do you like to do? How are you employed, happy with job? etc...that sort of stuff. You probably already know a lot of these second exceptionalities can sound a lot alike. Finding the right sort of dr to consult with might be key if you feel the issue is keeping you from really doing what you want with your life. Best of luck, welcome! smile

    chris1234 #78838 06/23/10 07:50 PM
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    I love what chris1234 said - very wise!

    Was the IQ score a group IQ test or an individual IQ test? If it was individual, can you set up a meeting with the person how administered the test and ask the same questions? If it was a group test, then I wouldn't put too much weight on it. No IQ test is perfect for every person who takes it, but the group tests are famously imperfect.

    Even if the IQ test was individual, lots of people score average on IQ tests but when one looks at the parts that make up the test, the average score can reflect a mathematical average of very high and very low scores. Do you have someone who can sit down with you and explain the various subscores of your IQ test and how the parts might match up with how you experience yourself?

    Violet, I love the way you described:
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    I have a sort of paradox within myself that I can't get things that others understand, yet nobody understands what I understand.
    I think that is very common with most gifted people, if they are 2e or 'just gifted.' No one is uniformly strong across all domains. Some of the weakness are weak enough that they fell like learning disabilities, except that the weakness is still in the average range, or even above average. Here we call those bottlenecks. We help each other try to plan for them or go around them - but they are hard to get used to.

    What I've found is that the things that other people find simple and I find difficult are things that I have learned slowly over the years - so don't give up! Flylady.net helped me so much, and lately I'm reading 'Getting things done' by David Allen, and that's helping even more. Part of my problem was a lack of reference. I sort of assumed that if I was strong in one brain function, that I should be strong across all the functions, such as spelling and keeping track of what needs to get done. It turns out that spell checker does a pretty good job of correcting my spelling, and getting in the habit of assuming 'I would forget my head if it wasn't attached' and so compensating by forming the habit of writing everything down as if it was leaving instructions for some one else to carry out and keeping the habit of checking my lists has been amazing. I'm walking around as if I could leap tall building. My brain is SOOOO happy it's off the hook for 'remembering to by eggs'

    As for the anxiety attacks, it would be good to talk to a trusted adult who could help you sort out if you are having regular anxiety, but experiencing it more deeply, as gifted people do, or if you are having what a medical doctor would define as anxiety attacks. Pearl S. Buck said it best, I think:

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    The truly creative mind in any field is no more than this: A human creature born abnormally, inhumanely sensitive. To them... a touch is a blow, a sound is a noise, a misfortune is a tragedy, a joy is an ecstasy, a friend is a lover, a lover is a god, and failure is death.
    Add to this cruelly delicate organism the overpowering necessity to create, create, create -- so that without the creating of music or poetry or books or buildings or something of meaning, their very breath is cut off...
    They must create, must pour out creation. By some strange, unknown, inward urgency they are not really alive unless they are creating.
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    Misdiagnosis and dual diagnoses of gifted children and adults: ADHD, bipolar ... By James T. Webb, Edward R. Amend
    if you haven't already.

    Lately I've been encouraging people to go all Harriet the Spy (by Louise Fitzhugh) and start documenting their families experiences with smartness/success/giftedness/special schools/grade skipping/strengths and weaknesses. Does that sound useful?

    Great to hear from you - now I'm skipping happily off to bed!
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    Grinity, thanks for the Pearl Buck quote. I had never heard it.


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    OK. Sorry if I bothered you, but you seem pretty cool. If I move, I will move where there are specialists. Thanks for the help, and you all really did well. I appreciate it! ^^

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    And to Grinity, I love eggs. I liked the eggs comment. Do you want them boiled, because that's the only eggs that I probably won't burn! ^^

    Violet #78903 06/24/10 10:48 AM
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    For a while (4 days) I thought it would be great to write a cook book of recopies that 'even I' couldn't mess up. If you like boiling eggs, you may want to try cooking with a 'slow cooker.' I put the food in it in the morning, plug it in, check it to see that it's really heating up (is the switch set to on?) and in the evening it's cooked!
    We may not do 'diagnosises' but we are jam full of helpful suggestions on any topic you could name!

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    Grinity #78908 06/24/10 11:23 AM
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    And you are definitely not bothering anyone!!! smile

    I hope I did not sound bothered...

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    No you didn't! ^^ I'm just very anxious and wary because of all the at-times rauchy gossip people have spread about me! ^^

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    Girlfriend -- repeat after me... I am weird,I will always be wierd, and it's OK because as I expand my world I will see that I am not alone!

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