When we did the WJIII achievement test the tester generated scores without broad scores. After my request they produced the broad scores.

I was wondering is there more than one way to give out scores for IQ? Should I ask for something so the tester does not have to generate scores twice.

"IQ" scores are not generated from an achievement test. The WJIII Test of Cognitive Abilities would generate ability scores, or the WISC-IV, SB-5. Standard scores are generated - broad scores are just composite scores. Broad math includes all the math subtests, and give you an idea of how well your child is performing in math in comparison to same-age peers. The subtest scores are just more specific, for computation or problem solving, for example.

I think Onthego is asking more about what scores she could expect to actually have on her official report. In most cases, reporting the FSIQ is pretty standard, although if there is huge scatter, some psychologists won't include it. If you have any say, ask for "subtest scores, index scores, and FSIQ". Ideally you would get them all regardless. If you want to push your luck, ask for raw scores as well. (Those are mightily handy if your child has any 18/19 level subtest scores)

In short though, the IQ "composites" (index scores and FSIQ) are much more routine than achievement composites.

(FSIQ = Full Scale IQ)

Some people have received score reports (from school psychologists) with only percentiles listed.

At the place where my kids were tested, the psychologists had a computer program that generated score reports. I'm not sure how much control they had over the format of the output.

Good point Cathy! In fact, you just never know what you might (or might not) get.

It probably can't hurt to send a brief and polite email/letter to the tune of...

"We are hoping to use this score report for admission into a program not affiliated with the school. We request that you please include all raw scores, scaled scores, index scores and the IQ composite (FSIQ if using the WISC-IV or SB-5) and thank you in advance for your cooperation."

Adding to what Dottie wrote, if the test is the WISC-IV, you can also get a General Ability Index (GAI) score. This score removes the Working Memory and Processing Speed scores, and gives you a score based on Verbal Comprehension and Perceptual reasoning.

Dottie and ch64- Is asking for this no big deal? In terms of the testers efforts- would this request make them mad in any way? My situation feels very delicate.

I offered a DYS portfolio of my son's work to the principal and she was insulted. She said, I think our teachers know their students very well. I told her I'm not disagreeing but there was information in the portfolio that they would not know otherwise. She took it and talked about passing it on. They were also defensive about DYS and seemed worried they were going to take over. I tried to reassure them DYS is a good thing and told them we may not get accepted with our minimal scores. The school Psychologist/tester said his scores were not PG. I said they maybe looking at the scores a different way because they wanted broad score she didn't originally generate. In summary they are helping to give my DS some things to be excited about in school but they don't seem too happy with me. I tried so hard to keep it nice but it didn't go that way. It's a bit discouraging.

It really shouldn't be a big deal....and if you send a brief email, prefacing it briefly with how you hope to use the report for a non-school related program, then hopefully they'll play nice. It really isn't extra "work" for them (seriously...we are taking mere seconds/minues!)

However, it's hard to get a feel for someone else's school admin rapport. These requests must be made gently, and infrequently. If you are asking them questions daily....it won't go over as well. You really do have to prioritize your interaction. I've let many things go so that I could focus on those hot items I feel are more important. This is a skill that comes in time, .

Dottie - Thanks for the advice.

Feel free to PM me if you have any specific scoring questions, .