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#60486 - 11/05/09 08:51 PM Re: Ridiculous school behaviors [Re: Speechie]
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Registered: 08/20/08
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Originally Posted By: Speechie
I was going to say he sounds underchallenged or bored. Is he a very active kid- any psychomotor OE that makes it hard for him to sit when things get repetitive?

He is an active child...but could sit forever doing something he is interested in. I think he definitely tends to have difficulty sitting during repetitive tasks and things that are moving at a very slow pace. I have watched him act "silly" to amuse himself and to make others smile or get some reaction. It does seem like most of he time he tells me about behaviors during the class it is when he is supposed to be doing a simple worksheet that is about 3 grade levels below his level....or when they are on the rug learning how to read or learning about other things. But sometimes there is just no rhyme or reason. Like when he goofs off walking in the hall. I guess he could be bored walking in the hall...but who isn't?

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#60495 - 11/06/09 04:43 AM Re: Ridiculous school behaviors [Re: shellymos]
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hahaha, we need more 'smiley' options! I'd post a great big one waving and jumping up & down!
I bet the principal did say that, and I'd bet she is 100% correct. Your son is bored!

We are slowly getting out of that type of behavior. I'll let you know next week, after conferences, to see if we're completely past that at 5th grade.

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#60498 - 11/06/09 05:03 AM Re: Ridiculous school behaviors [Re: shellymos]
Grinity Offline
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Registered: 12/13/05
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Originally Posted By: shellymos

About calling the school, I don't know. I think I am going to hold off. I may mention it to his teacher though. We will see. I really am starting to think that DS said the principal said that because that is how he was feeling. But I could be wrong. I will attempt to broach the subject at breakfast and see.


I think that this is a great way to 'broach' the subject with the Principle. It has the advantage in that you truly don't 'get' what is going on, and can be in the position to be asking for clarification and help. You're 'just' calling to get an confirmation on if he is accurately reporting or fibbing. Kids this age make up all sorts of wild stories - so you won't look strange. Count my DS as one of those ones while 'far out' ideas, that he pursued, especially when underchallenged.

My least favorite was when he taped his mouth shut in 2nd grade. He says that the teacher had threatened to do that to him. I was sure that he was fibbing. Her comment? 'Well, I never really would have!'

Part of it is certainly that when a Highly Gifted child chooses to 'act out' they do it in a Highly Gifted way - so they might be unusually clever in what they try. Sadly for my son, it became part of his internal picture of himself. For boys, it's particularly important that they have a 'title.' There isn't a lot of nuanced thought about being a multifaceted individual with strengths and challenges, even for most gifted boys, at this age. So Shelly, I'm worried that he is behaving badly, but I'm more worried that he might adopt the internal'title' of 'Mr. Unpredictable stir thing up-er'

((hugs))
Grinity

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#60502 - 11/06/09 06:14 AM Re: Ridiculous school behaviors [Re: Grinity]
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Originally Posted By: Grinity
My least favorite was when he taped his mouth shut in 2nd grade. He says that the teacher had threatened to do that to him. I was sure that he was fibbing. Her comment? 'Well, I never really would have!'

Grinity
Wow...I wonder why some teachers actually teach.

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#61154 - 11/13/09 07:18 AM Re: Ridiculous school behaviors [Re: Jamie B]
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My son CJ is encountering many of these issues as well. i feel that the teachers just don't like him and won't make any accomedations. My son makes noises and sings to himself. One day it was pretending to be a cat. Teacher really freaked on that one. She says thats why other kids stay away from him.

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#61155 - 11/13/09 07:33 AM Re: Ridiculous school behaviors [Re: vicam]
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Originally Posted By: vicam
My son CJ is encountering many of these issues as well. i feel that the teachers just don't like him and won't make any accomedations. My son makes noises and sings to himself. One day it was pretending to be a cat. Teacher really freaked on that one. She says thats why other kids stay away from him.


My 5 year old spends half her days as a cat (literally!). It's sad that a teacher would freak out on an un-engaged child playing make believe.

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#61160 - 11/13/09 07:39 AM Re: Ridiculous school behaviors [Re: vicam]
Jamie B Offline
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Loc: Louisiana
Originally Posted By: vicam
Teacher really freaked on that one. She says thats why other kids stay away from him.
I can't believe that the teacher said that!!! I'm so mad for you right now!

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#61167 - 11/13/09 08:21 AM Re: Ridiculous school behaviors [Re: Jamie B]
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My DS5.5 (almost 6) skipped K this year also. And when I volunteer in his class each week I see that at "carpet time" he moves around and doesn't keep his eye on the teacher and sometimes plays with the kid next to him. At his desk I see him often tipping his chair onto its back legs. I see him raise his hand and say funny but totally irrelevant things. BUT I also see this in the majority of the kids in his class -- espcially the boys! I am a person who's all about following the rules and not calling attention to myself, so it totally stresses me out out when I hear that he's more, shall we say, spirited. But in a first grade classroom it is SO the norm to be "immature." If you can't be immature when you're 5-7 years old, when can you be?! No, my son isn't academically challenged for a lot of the day and this does contribute to his antics, but even the kids who are challenged act out because they are little kids. And, importantly, in my experience at school, the 7 year old kids are no better behaved than the 6 year olds or even than my DS5.5, no matter what the teachers say. It really can be just a matter of personality, not a deficit of any kind.

I am really lucky that I get to volunteer weekly in my kids' classes, because now that I do I really get to see the HUGE range of behaviors and academic abilities and it has really helped me to relax and not expect perfection from my kids when no kid really is perfectly behaved.

Also, I think a lot of teachers are always trying to find something to suggest as something to work on, like bosses do at job evaluations. They think it's helpful. It drives me nuts. If a child is working at or above grade level and behaving like a normal kid, why can't that be enough? Also, sometimes a teacher will mention a misbehavior and think that they're just sharing something interesting that happened that day, and I take it more seriously than they intended. I really wish if a misbehavior is par for the course that they would just handle it at school and not get me involved.

Anyway, shellymos, I think your DS sounds fun!

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#61175 - 11/13/09 09:27 AM Re: Ridiculous school behaviors [Re: mnmom23]
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Originally Posted By: mnmom23
If you can't be immature when you're 5-7 years old, when can you be?! No, my son isn't academically challenged for a lot of the day and this does contribute to his antics, but even the kids who are challenged act out because they are little kids. And, importantly, in my experience at school, the 7 year old kids are no better behaved than the 6 year olds or even than my DS5.5, no matter what the teachers say. It really can be just a matter of personality, not a deficit of any kind.


I totally agree with this. I pulled out my son to homeschool after 1st grade. He had a bad 1st grade year, but it wasn't necessarily JUST due to academics. Our school wasn't good for active boys. DS is not ADHD. He's just got a higher energy personality - physically and mentally. He asks a lot of questions and likes to talk a lot. There were plenty of boys in my son's 1st grade class having issues at all ends of the spectrum. If you were quiet, well behaved, and were a rule follower you had a good year.

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#61176 - 11/13/09 09:30 AM Re: Ridiculous school behaviors [Re: mnmom23]
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mnmom23 - wow, your DS sounds a lot like mom...I had to laugh when you said he raises his hand and says irrelevant things. My DS recently went through a stage at school where when the teacher called on him he would say "peanut butter and jelly sandwich." He thought it was hilarious! Of course the others thought it was humorous at times too. When I went in to volunteer for a party the other day I would have to guess that he would have to have been in the top 5 of most behaved students. He didn't do anything really out of the norm at all...and the other kids were pretty wild and immature. While I completely acknowledge my DS is immature at times, I also think that because he skipped K and he is the way he is, they tend to watch him more and then see him doing dumb things. Thankfully he has a lot of great things that they see that balance him out. The kids didn't at all seem to shy away from my DS when I observed.

I also know what you mean about teachers commenting on behaviors. Sometimes it is helpful, but sometimes it really isn't. During a conference DS's teacher mentioned that the kids notice that he is smart, but are picking up on his behavior and that another girl said to the teacher the other day "if he is so smart, why does he doe those things." The teacher says that she told the girl "good question, I don't know" I don't always know either, but it annoys me that the implication is that he can't be all that smart if he behaves that way. He is a year younger, and he is being silly and is not completely challenged, that is a big part of it.

Anyhow, this week has been much better with behaviors, the more they seem to challenge him the better the weeks seem to be. I am hoping it continues in that pattern. Although, all the challenging in the world is not going to take away the fact that he is 5 and will still act silly sometimes.

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