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#57532 - 10/06/09 01:39 PM Re: Lost it with "Everyday Math" Book [Re: Cecilia]
BWBShari Offline
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Registered: 10/24/08
Posts: 672
Loc: Edgewood NM
When my DS started school, he knew how to multiply. After learning to multiply the "everyday msth" way he no longer could.
They teach a thing called latticing and partial products. It is quite frankly RETARDED!
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Mom to DS 3, DS 4, DS 6, DD 14
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#57538 - 10/06/09 02:34 PM Re: Lost it with "Everyday Math" Book [Re: BWBShari]
Wyldkat Offline
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Registered: 05/22/09
Posts: 151
I have the same issue with Wolf's math book. Since I get to pick and choose out of it we get to skip all the make it harder than it has to be junk. I'm not surprised a lot of kids don't like math if this is how it is taught!!!

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#57648 - 10/07/09 08:39 AM Re: Lost it with "Everyday Math" Book [Re: Wyldkat]
CAMom Offline
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Registered: 08/13/08
Posts: 255
I also lost it on Everyday Math last week! It's actually Houghton Mifflin but they're using much the same approach. DS who is in 1st grade and should be doing 3rd grade math, was doing "regroup the tens" You have 56. How else can you regroup the tens? You're supposed to write 4 tens and 16 ones or 3 tens and 26 ones. He just kept saying "WHY? WHY 26 ones? That makes no sense!"

Then "Draw a picture to describe how you solved the problem."

Ugh...

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#57653 - 10/07/09 09:09 AM Re: Lost it with "Everyday Math" Book [Re: CAMom]
shellymos Offline
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Registered: 08/20/08
Posts: 567
Originally Posted By: CAMom
"regroup the tens" You have 56. How else can you regroup the tens? You're supposed to write 4 tens and 16 ones or 3 tens and 26 ones. He just kept saying "WHY? WHY 26 ones? That makes no sense!"Ugh...

LOL, that is so annoying. And you gotta love the pictures too, you have to show your work. What is sad to me too is your DS's work seems actually more challenging than my DS's first grade assignments about what number comes next, and they are all numbers under 20. What number comes next in first grade?Really?

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#57663 - 10/07/09 09:24 AM Re: Lost it with "Everyday Math" Book [Re: shellymos]
BonusMom Offline
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Registered: 04/06/09
Posts: 70
Loc: IL
Can I just add my "ugh" to the chorus?

That curriculum is beyond ridiculous.

I'd better stop with that before I roll on for three pages.

UGH.

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#57710 - 10/07/09 12:30 PM Re: Lost it with "Everyday Math" Book [Re: shellymos]
CAMom Offline
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Registered: 08/13/08
Posts: 255
Originally Posted By: shellymos

LOL, that is so annoying. And you gotta love the pictures too, you have to show your work. What is sad to me too is your DS's work seems actually more challenging than my DS's first grade assignments about what number comes next, and they are all numbers under 20. What number comes next in first grade?Really?


Well that's actually the 2nd grade work... his teacher is giving him 2nd grade homework, but he still has to do the 1st grade work in class. But according to his achievement testing, as well as his "grade level exam" he should be about halfway through 3rd grade.

She's ensuring there are no gaps. Because adding 2+2 is somehow likely to have a gap, even when you can add 3596+4989. I've given up temporarily because he's receiving full differentiation for reading... got to pick my battles!

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#57744 - 10/07/09 06:10 PM Re: Lost it with "Everyday Math" Book [Re: CAMom]
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Registered: 08/12/09
Posts: 6
Let us know how this goes. Our 3rd grader has to keep her EM book at home this year. I almost, almost had her finish the entire book last week and take it in. I've been keeping it out hoping she will just do it herself one day, but instead she chooses to do algebra.

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#57760 - 10/07/09 08:06 PM Re: Lost it with "Everyday Math" Book [Re: CAMom]
shellymos Offline
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Registered: 08/20/08
Posts: 567
Originally Posted By: CAMom
Originally Posted By: shellymos

LOL, that is so annoying. And you gotta love the pictures too, you have to show your work. What is sad to me too is your DS's work seems actually more challenging than my DS's first grade assignments about what number comes next, and they are all numbers under 20. What number comes next in first grade?Really?


Well that's actually the 2nd grade work... his teacher is giving him 2nd grade homework, but he still has to do the 1st grade work in class. But according to his achievement testing, as well as his "grade level exam" he should be about halfway through 3rd grade.

She's ensuring there are no gaps. Because adding 2+2 is somehow likely to have a gap, even when you can add 3596+4989. I've given up temporarily because he's receiving full differentiation for reading... got to pick my battles!

Wow...that's scary that 2nd grade work is that simple as well. I don't know what level DS5 is at with math...maybe they will finish assessing him at some point. I would guess some things he is 3rd and some things 5th or above. It really depends. tonight's EM homework was "start a one and see how high you can count" My DS looks at me and says "I could count into the millions...I don't want to do that." so then he just wrote down 60 on the line, LOL. They also had to fill in missing numbers in the number grid from 1-10. I know that is first grade work...but I thought kids were supposed to all have differentiation. It's just frustrating. Mine does have differentiation for spelling...not so sure about reading. He told me that he met with the reading lady and that he was "done with reading" and that he doesn't need to see her for anything any more because he got the highest scores possible on her test. Hopefully they will do something for that.

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#57860 - 10/08/09 01:19 PM Re: Lost it with "Everyday Math" Book [Re: shellymos]
Val Offline
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Registered: 09/01/07
Posts: 579
Loc: California
Ahh...Everyday Math. It was the bane of DS9's existence when he was in 2nd grade. He wanted to do fractions and algebra, EM wanted him to cut out pictures of triangles and write about our past presidents. I have memories of writing "This is not mathematics!" on his homework sheets.

Sometimes on the way home from school, we'd get on the topic of EM and he'd exclaim, "What's the deal with this number grid* ?!? Why can't we just ADD????!!!?? It's so much easier!!"

Val

*The thing where they write 1-100 in a calendar-like format. This is supposed to teach number sense or something. They omitted zero and put each new ten on an old line:


11 ...18 19 20
21

I thought this was particularly confusing. Kids learned "number sense" by moving their fingers along the grid. I wrote a letter to the school's Curriculum-Meister pointing out the many flaws in this approach and how it could be mucho confusing. She told me that she had a hard time understanding what I wrote, but that EM was a good system and they were keeping it. Oh well.

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#57866 - 10/08/09 02:15 PM Re: Lost it with "Everyday Math" Book [Re: Val]
Cathy A Offline
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Registered: 05/26/07
Posts: 1556
Loc: West coast, USA
DS had an EM homework sheet yesterday (3rd grade) which had a box labeled "Total" with two smaller boxes under it labeled "Part" and "Part". There was a word problem in which he needed to add 35 and 20. He had filled in the boxes correctly but wasn't sure what to write on the line below which asked, "Why does your answer make sense?"

Finally, he wrote, "Because I added perfectly."

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